I ran with my watch (and my phone) yesterday for the first time. I also had my Nike + app running at the same time for comparison. The watch was WAY OFF BASE. Calculations for distance and pace weren't even close. Will this be calibrated over time??

I ran with my watch (and my phone) yesterday for the first time. I also had my Nike + app running at the same time for comparison. The watch was WAY OFF BASE. Calculations for distance and pace weren't even close. Will this be calibrated over time??

Apple Watch, iOS 8.3

Posted on Apr 26, 2015 5:08 AM

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Posted on Apr 30, 2015 6:48 AM

Hi dbwass,


It seems you are seeing unexpected results when using Apple Watch. The following article provides steps to calibrate Apple Watch, which may improve the quality of your activity results:


Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy - Apple Support


You can calibrate your Apple Watch to improve the accuracy of your distance and pace measurements during walking or running workouts when GPS isn't available (such as when you walk or run outdoors without your iPhone, or use a treadmill).

  1. Bring your iPhone and your Apple Watch.
  2. Find an open, flat area outside that offers good GPS reception and clear skies.
  3. Hold your iPhone in your hand, or attach it to your body with an armband (preferably) or waistband.
  4. Open the Workout app on your Apple Watch, and choose Outdoor Walk or Outdoor Run.
  5. Choose your goal, or select Open, and tap Start.
  6. Walk or run at your normal pace for about 20 minutes.

If you can't accumulate 20 minutes of outdoor walking or running during one Workout session, you can accumulate 20 minutes over multiple outdoor walking or running Workout sessions with your iPhone. If you frequently walk or run at a variety of different speeds, it's best to accumulate 20 minutes of outdoor walking or running in the Workout app with your iPhone at each of the speeds you frequently walk or run at.

You don't need to do anything specific to start this calibration process. It can be done during a regular outdoor walking or running workout in the Workout app when you have your iPhone with you. And, whenever you use Apple Watch and iPhone to walk or run outside in the Workout app, it will continue to calibrate the accelerometer by learning your unique stride length at different speeds, and get more accurate over time.

This calibration process can also help improve the accuracy of your overall calorie estimations in many of the other workout categories in the Workout app, and the calorie, distance, Move, and Exercise estimations in the Activity app. However, it's not necessary to do this calibration process before using either the Activity or Workout apps.


Thank you for contributing to Apple Support Communities.



Take care,

Bobby_D

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Apr 30, 2015 6:48 AM in response to dbwass

Hi dbwass,


It seems you are seeing unexpected results when using Apple Watch. The following article provides steps to calibrate Apple Watch, which may improve the quality of your activity results:


Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy - Apple Support


You can calibrate your Apple Watch to improve the accuracy of your distance and pace measurements during walking or running workouts when GPS isn't available (such as when you walk or run outdoors without your iPhone, or use a treadmill).

  1. Bring your iPhone and your Apple Watch.
  2. Find an open, flat area outside that offers good GPS reception and clear skies.
  3. Hold your iPhone in your hand, or attach it to your body with an armband (preferably) or waistband.
  4. Open the Workout app on your Apple Watch, and choose Outdoor Walk or Outdoor Run.
  5. Choose your goal, or select Open, and tap Start.
  6. Walk or run at your normal pace for about 20 minutes.

If you can't accumulate 20 minutes of outdoor walking or running during one Workout session, you can accumulate 20 minutes over multiple outdoor walking or running Workout sessions with your iPhone. If you frequently walk or run at a variety of different speeds, it's best to accumulate 20 minutes of outdoor walking or running in the Workout app with your iPhone at each of the speeds you frequently walk or run at.

You don't need to do anything specific to start this calibration process. It can be done during a regular outdoor walking or running workout in the Workout app when you have your iPhone with you. And, whenever you use Apple Watch and iPhone to walk or run outside in the Workout app, it will continue to calibrate the accelerometer by learning your unique stride length at different speeds, and get more accurate over time.

This calibration process can also help improve the accuracy of your overall calorie estimations in many of the other workout categories in the Workout app, and the calorie, distance, Move, and Exercise estimations in the Activity app. However, it's not necessary to do this calibration process before using either the Activity or Workout apps.


Thank you for contributing to Apple Support Communities.



Take care,

Bobby_D

Apr 26, 2015 3:54 PM in response to nick101

I ran again today with both my phone and watch. It seemed more accurate as far as mileage and the overall average pace was definitely more on par. I did run a much shorter distance today so I'm not sure if that made a difference. But while I was actually running, when I looked down at my pace on the watch, it still seemed way off...so I was actually quite surprised to see the overall pace almost match what was measured on my Nike + app. I'm just wondering how long it takes the watch to calibrate my stride before becoming as accurate as it can be?


This is the main reason why I bought the Apple watch so if the accuracy of the mileage and pace are going to be consistently off, I will return the watch. I understand it most likely won't ever be perfect since the watch itself does not have GPS. And I'm by no means an elite runner or need fancy stats, but I'd like the basics to be somewhat accurate.

Jun 13, 2015 7:43 AM in response to Spanishblonde

Spanishblonde, have you tried calibrating the watch? When I did my first indoor run of about 3 miles, the watch calculated it to be almost 5 miles. The next day I did some running and walking outside, calibrating the watch, and when I did my next indoor run of 3 miles the watch was spot on. My indoor runs are on a track, not a treadmill, but I believe during calibration it accounts for your change in stride from walking to running.


Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy - Apple Support

Apr 26, 2015 2:05 PM in response to dbwass

Same issue. Running with iPhone 6. Distance was measured approximately 10% to short compared to reality and iSmoothrun.

The even more annoying problem was the fact that shown pace had absolutely nothing to do with the measured distance and time.


I passed first kilometer mark around 7 minutes both values shown on watch like this but at this time the displayed pace value was 11:33 min/km.

Pace value was also constantly changing.


I think when running with attached phone there can be no excuse for not having accurate distance and pace.

Apr 26, 2015 10:03 PM in response to nick101

nick101 wrote:


Check that the pace was not in miles rather than kilometres

All was correct. With metric settings the pace will always shown metric as well. The summary did show the correctly calculated pace as well.


I think the pace algorithm is either buggy or stupidly implemented. Even when we consider the mileage calculation has some errors, the distance/time ratio should fit.


Strange, because fitness is one of the most hyped features and for sure many people from Apple are runners.

Apr 27, 2015 2:12 AM in response to nick101

I ran again this morning - distance and pace in the summary were correct. Pace during the run seemed right.


I'm using Runkeeper in parallel to provide a benchmark, and they seem to tie up pretty well. This is alos over a course whose distance I know.


There will be some differences in the rate at which GPS is polled for data, and the algorithms for calculating distance, but they should be as wide as you're seeing.

Apr 27, 2015 11:04 AM in response to dbwass

I ran the launch day w it, the main reason i purchased the watch was to use for running. I used mapmyrun which i was also running on my phone, i was disappointed that they didnt have a pace screen on the watch. So i switched to Nike+ and the pace seemed ok. I ran yesterday and attempted to use the work out app, the pace was WAY off, so I also than opened Underarmours Record watch app to see how that one would be, it was alot better, but im still not sold on the pace being accurate. my phone was running map my fitness the entire time and was accurate with the other 2 guys i ran with. My biggest questions is, what will be accurate with the PACE, that is huge for me, i want to be able to look down at my wrist to make sure Im pacing correctly. I have a big 10 mi run sunday, and I am hoping for a PR, so i really need to get this figured out so im not messing around w it while running.

Apr 29, 2015 6:14 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

I have had the exact same issue. I've now done five runs or walks with my watch, my phone with me, and each time the distance results have been between 2% and 10% below my tom-tom GPS watch and the run keeper app that was also running off my phone's GPS. It seems like it is getting slightly better each time, but I cannot figure out why there would be any difference at all when compared to another app using the exact same GPS. I'm in conversations with tech-support, and they are supposed to get back to me tomorrow with a response. If they have a fix, I will be sure to post it here.

Apr 29, 2015 6:42 PM in response to dbwass

I went to a track and ran exactly 3 miles with my watch (and phone). The distance was off by 0.07 miles. My average pace seemed to be on target. However, while I was actually running, the pace still seemed a bit off when I looked down at my watch, but not nearly as bad as it was during my first run.


I also went to the Apple genius bar today at the store to discuss the calibration issues of the watch. The tech didn't seem to know much about the watch in general; it's still brand new to them, too. He did say that he's "heard" that it takes 2-4 weeks for the watch to calibrate one's stride and accurately calculate pace.


I'm still on the fence about this watch. It's a super sleek piece and a beautiful accessory, but I'm just not sure if it suits my purposes as a running watch. I still have a week to decide if I keep it or return it and try the new Garmin Vivoactive watch.

Apr 29, 2015 6:59 PM in response to dbwass

dbwass wrote:



I'm still on the fence about this watch. It's a super sleek piece and a beautiful accessory, but I'm just not sure if it suits my purposes as a running watch. I still have a week to decide if I keep it or return it and try the new Garmin Vivoactive watch.

You should check out DC Rainmaker's review of the Vivoactive. His a triathlete and serious gadget guy.


dcrainmaker.com

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