What counts as "exercise" for the green ring??

Everything you say is correct. However, you can get the information that you want by using the Runkeeper app, which works on the watch.

You shouldn't have to use that workaround ... the watch's native apps should work as intended, and should not be as messed up as they are ... but at least there are alternatives.

You're absolutely right.

As I said above, there are workarounds. There shouldn't have to be workarounds, but at least there are workarounds.

For example, to monitor HR continuously, just turn on the Workout app and pull up a HR screen in that app. You don't really need to use Workout for any other purpose. And then use Runkeeper to monitor things like distance and time.

It's inelegant, but at least it's functional.

The one that irritates me the most is the opaque Activity app. But I didn't buy the watch for its apps, so I just have to learn to ignore that app.

Given Apple's response rate to software issues in the past, what would you rate the odds?

Apple has a disturbing tendency to hear about a bug and call it a feature.

Nevertheless, I have attempted to communicate the problems, and will do so again.

Tony0330 wrote:

Oh, and the stair counter is terrible, too. The Fitbit Surge was almost exactly right, consistently. The Apple Watch? Not so much.

As I understand it the Stairs data is only available from the sensors in the iPhone. I may be wrong but that certainly seems to agree with my use of both Watch and Phone.

I was watching the WWDC Keynote yesterday. During the Watch segment it was revealed that exercise would count toward calories burned (Move) in Watch 2.0. This was stated more as a new feature rather than as a bug that needed to be fixed.

Anyway, we can all stop complaining. It will be fixed shortly.

Hi Everyone,

Here is my answer from AppleCare iOS Senior Advisor about all the problems with resting calories and active calories:

"You asked at the perfect time. Apple had a conference yesterday announcing that iOS 9 and the Apple Watch OS will be released in the fall. It’s going to be an exciting time for all of us. Prior to that the rumor is iOS 8.4 is going to be released before then, so keep an eye on your iPhone."

Based on this I told my husband to return his watch and if they repair this function then he can re-buy in the fall!

Keep reporting your problems to Apple and on this forum because that is the only way they will acknowledge and fix these problems.

My husband and I bought the watch to replace a Fitbit HR. The fitbit has a great tracker, shares with other apps, and counts calories reliably. It also will tell you how many calories and how many steps, etc. with graphs you did in the last month in addition to many other functions. Apples tracker is poorly designed in comparison. Therefore, we are very disappointed. It is a fun device and since we both have the iphone 6 plus and do not like to carry it around at our facility it is useful to have the Apple watch notifications and phone calls. However, that does not overcome the main purpose we bought the watch for which is the fitness tracking.

Additionally, having been an early adaptor on many Apple devices my personal opinion is that the tracker will not be fixed in September. I suggested to my husband that he simply go back to the Fitbit and repurchase when Apple watch gets their act together. I waited too long and cannot return it.

I'm a 62 yr old woman; for me 120 - to 125 bps is a 'brisk walk', yet I walked 40 minutes this morning (inside) and was credited with only 2 minutes of exercise. I did enter my age & sex, so what gives? My fitbit was always right on! The Apple exercise calculator is messed up

I don't get how this exercise ring works either...

I'm a 33yr old dog walker and obviously walk at a different rate to when I'm actually exercising so don't actually expect that to show on the ring, but Ive just done 20 mins on the treadmill and averaged 125BPM, yet not one exercise minute??? 😠

How on earth is this supposed to motivate someone to exercise more???

I've only had my watch since Thursday and understand that the watch takes time to 'learn' the users movements to gain accuracy, but this seems daft 😟

I watched the keynote but don't remember anything about existing features being fixed. I'll have another look.

Regarding "learning" I haven't seen any improved tracking of Calories or other metrics over the 5 weeks I've used my Watch. The Watch learns your gait by checking against your Phone but that only takes 20 minutes. Workout data hasn't changed at all.

A Watch could learn more about an individual's heart rate range but it doesn't seem to.

I have tried a couple of Workouts again recently and the Rower Calories still far too low.

Also, the Watch is showing about 110 Resting Calories/hour, although the Health App knows my Resting Calories have been recorded as around 60/hour. The total Watch Resting Calories/day would be about 1,000 Calories more than I eat.

I bought a Watch that took Heart Rate every 10 minutes but now sometimes never takes my Heart Rate at all unless I select Workout. During a Rower Workout yesterday my Heart Rate was recorded as 200 to 213 for 6 minutes and after a gap of a couple of minutes 62. Neither was close.

There is more than Exercise that's broken.

"It will correctly credit Move and Exercise."

I don't know what you mean by "correctly." Yes, it will credit the minutes if you start and stop it promptly. But, little else, certainly not calories expended.

George

I didn't buy the watch for the "exercise ring" per se. But, I did buy it primarily for fitness and health tracking. And, these do not work as they should, including the exercise band. I didn't buy my car for its radio, but I have reason to expect it to function correctly.

I think a number people bought the watch primarily for fitness features and have been disappointed. These problems seem to be software and will be fixed soon, I hope, as an Apple Watch owner and an Apple shareholder.

George

Totally agree with what George is saying.

I bought my Apple Watch as I have a huge interest in my personal fitness whilst I'm losing weight. I also had no way of actually using the Health App without using multiple 3rd party apps to write data.

The watch is supposed to bridge that gap for me and I can honestly say it has helped, but when the Move App isn't working as well as it could be, then people are more than entitled to query when this will be dealt with.

After all, I don't just use my phone to make calls anymore, so why would I use my watch just for telling the time (especially when its been marketed so heavily for the Health and Fitness side of things)???

Why doesn't Apple have anything to say about the problems people are having with their Watches?

They changed how the heart rate monitor works in 1.0.1 without explaining why. They haven't responded on clear bugs like BMR on the Watch ignoring BMR in the Health app. Why are the Calories in a workout so astronomically different from non-workout exercise? And why are workout Calories so far short of the work that our exercise machines have done (simply not possible)?

They must know people are wrestling with their Watches trying to get sensible, consistent results but not a word from Apple. But hey, the autumn update gives you a nightstand clock mode. Right.

I wrestled for 3 months and it went on eBay.

Before someone tells me, I know Apple don't read this. Maybe that's half the problem.