What counts as "exercise" for the green ring??

Does anyone know what counts as "exercise"? i.e. what does it take to advance the green ring?? All the apple watch info I've seen says "brisk walk". I went for an "outside walk" using the workout app today. I walked for 56 minutes, and did 3.18 miles, with an average heart rate of 128. Yet it only counted as 17 minutes towards my green exercise ring!! What gives? We can't all be Christy Turlington training for a marathon! I'm an out-of-shape working mom with a baby! That's about as good "exercise" as I get these days.

My resting heart rate is pretty low, usually 55-65, so 128 is a pretty decent burn! I think that was a brisk walk! Maybe other people walk faster, but I was pushing a stroller and there were some decent hills.


So does anyone know what the criteria are? Does your heart rate have to be above a certain threshold?


One other thought I had- I was pushing the stroller so my left arm wasn't swinging at my side- could that affect how it measures my motion?

And, would it have made a difference if I had called it "outside run" instead of "outside walk"? I know people that jog a 17" mile...


If the point of this app is to get people to get out and moving around more, it's discouraging for the 'goals' to be so hard to reach. And there are lots of articles these days that say walking may be better exercise than running. For walking to not be "good enough" is pretty deflating.

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Posted on Apr 27, 2015 9:42 AM

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Posted on Apr 28, 2015 3:51 AM

Well I went for another walk last night. 31minutes, 1.67m. Avg heart rate 126.

But this time I called it "outdoor run" instead of outdoor walk. And it says I burned 145cal (vs 196 for my 3.2m walk in the morning) and most importantly- it gave me 31 min of exercise on my green ring. Even though i walked slower, for less time, less distance, and had a lower heart rate- I got 2x as much "credit" for this walk vs the one in the morning (that was twice as long).


So bottom line- calling it run vs walk makes a big difference

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Aug 27, 2015 3:17 AM in response to Rob Cumberland

1. Apple has never engaged in general discussion about bugs, issues etc. It's no surprise that they're not making an exception for the watch. They do get engaged in discussions with beta testers and members for their various seed programmes.

2. Watch OS2 will be available in a few weeks and can be expected to include bug fixes as well as the new features that you're not interested in.


My own experience is that, by and large, the watch has done a good job in the areas discussed here. Not perfect, but I never expect perfection from software - anybody's software


None of that helps you much, especially since you've disposed of the watch.

Aug 27, 2015 5:24 AM in response to nick101

Nick, I'm not asking for a general discussion on bugs. I'm just suggesting that early adopters - when a product is so clearly not yet ready - are beta testers. I know Apple doesn't tell us about faults or what it is doing to fix them.


I'm saying maybe they should. If I had half an idea of what they were doing I might have stayed on board.


You say some bugs will be fixed in the autumn but we don't actually know. We don't know which ones or when because Apple hasn't said a word.


I hope it works out for you but I got tired of waiting.

Oct 25, 2016 9:19 PM in response to Alexroet

I have found it does the same for me. I had a transplant and walking/exercise is a must. It recorded everything until the update and don't know if it was coincidence but it quit tracking. I reset with Apple support 5 times, sent it in and they sent it back saying nothing was wrong. I can walk sometimes and it will count and other times take the same walk and won't count at all. This has been the most disappointing $400 I have ever spent. I had a Jawbone and it finally died, stepped up to this and have been unhappy ever since. I have considered going to the Fitbit. I bike ride and the time does not count as exercise and very few calories as I pedal constantly going an average speed of 8mph with 5-6 miles daily. If i wanted something to keep up with the date and time, i would wear a watch and that's about all this has amounted to.

Nov 15, 2016 5:58 AM in response to Alexroet

Great question! Me too.


I've read most of the answers here and it looks like Apple is keeping separate the categories of "Exercise" and "Workout."


To me this doesn't make sense. Any time I'm moving that's exercise, whether walking to the train or going for a run. Someone should tell Apple to simply add the workout to the Exercise Ring!

Jan 4, 2017 11:07 AM in response to léonie

léonie wrote:


If you would like to send feedback or suggestions to Apple, you can do so here:

I'm doing so frequently. But I want the feedback in the communities as well, as Apple invites us to post feedback in these forums ..


I appreciate that. My suggestion was intended only as a way of ensuring that your feedback reaches and is logged by Apple ("We read all feedback carefully").

Jan 7, 2017 3:51 PM in response to Jonathan UK

I just got an Apple Watch and I'm finding that it gives me exercise credit for activity that is clearly not exercise, such as walking around the house. Apple's support page says that "every full minute of movement that equals or exceeds the intensity of a brisk walk counts toward your daily Exercise goal." I wonder why Apple uses the one minute threshold to start counting exercise. The CDC and other organizations say that moderate to intense activity should be sustained for at least 10 minutes to be considered exercise. The Fitbit doesn't award active minutes/exercise credit until you hit 10 minutes.

Jan 28, 2017 7:39 AM in response to Jonathan UK

Aha, this enlighents me somewhat. i have been using "outdoor biking" when I take my bike into the landscape, but since I also bring my Nikon camera I may pause, and be still or move cautiously not to scare the animal off. So as it was today I only got 26 minutes credit out of the 90 minutes trip that the watch monitored... I was mowing /walking/biking for 85 minutes!

I understand that I would be better of, counting wise if I simply pick "Other" as exercise type !

Jan 28, 2017 8:50 AM in response to GreyT

So as it was today I only got 26 minutes credit out of the 90 minutes trip that the watch monitored... I was mowing /walking/biking for 85 minutes!

I understand that I would be better of, counting wise if I simply pick "Other" as exercise type !

Others will certainly advance the Activity Ring for the full duration of your bike ride, but then you will only see others in the history saved in the health.app pf your Watch. I prefer to have the correct workout type listed in the Health.app, so I can tell, if I have been biking, hiking, or others.

Feb 3, 2017 2:15 PM in response to chuck_3rd

I'm new to this discussion because I just got my watch in December of 2016. I have my age and other personal detail in my watch. In the first few weeks of the year, my watch was calculating correctly and I was getting the credit in my exercise ring of which I was doing. All of the sudden when I was using my phone for my music, I no longer am getting any credit or movement in my ring even though my outdoor walk is accurately posting all the information. I read in here some people are using "Other" instead of the actual exercise they're doing. I'm going to try this and see what happens.

Feb 3, 2017 2:38 PM in response to Jonathan UK

I experience similar results, and even it is not really clear from Apple how the parameters should be to record a 'true' exercise, i think there is a bug in the software.

I bike mostly, and experience almost every trip to be credited much shorter 'exercise' time than the full used time period.

looking at my data on my iPhone 6s it seems that if I make a short stop while biking, maybe looking at the scenery, the watch will stop counting the time used for 'training' but continue to count general time. In my example I got 46 minutes only out of 91 minutes total trip. looking at the graph for the green ring i see 4 vertical stripes then an empty space and then 3 vertical stripes (of varying hight, reflecting my efforts).

It is very inconvenient if one have to push button everytime you need to interrupt your exercise, therefor i call it a bug, and Apple should fix it. Otherwise its of no use and dixcurraging too, as you do not get your 'points' as expected.

I have tried "the other" option but then you may not get distance noted.

Kind regards

Palle, original apple watch.

Feb 23, 2017 9:45 PM in response to Alexroet

This still seems to be an issue after all this time. I walked to the office today using the Outdoor Walk activity and the Activity app gave me credit for 9 minutes of exercise for a 30 minute walk. It doesn't really make any sense. I've also noticed that the active calorie count is much higher if an activity is selected as opposed to doing the same activity without using the Activity app. The Apple Watch/Activity app doesn't accurately account for calories burned from body movement unless the Activity app is on.

Jul 10, 2017 2:19 PM in response to Alexroet

I've had my Apple Watch Series 2 for about 3 weeks. Now I'm being haunted by the dreaded exercise ring. What a disappointment to walk 4 miles and bike 6 miles and see 2 minutes registered in the exercise ring -- that just happened. I'm soaked in sweat and I check my watch - womp womp - notta. This is a new problem for me. The first two weeks everything worked fine, but the last several days the exercise ring has registered 1-3 minutes, and it doesn't matter what I do. I read a lot of the comments. Let me say, I'm not a fan of the suggestion to use the "other" setting for exercise. Why? It is a $400 watch made by Apple. Sorry, I'm expecting it to work flawlessly. I've been using Apple for everything, for years and years, and so does my entire family. So, no. And it doesn't matter anyway because I've been on the beach, not using the exercise app, but exercising more intensely than a "brisk walk," which is Apple's standard, and it still hasn't register anything - err. To find this problem on this forum, and see this has been an issue for years, and that it hasn't been fixed, is hugely disappointing.

Jul 10, 2017 6:02 PM in response to 4mattb

I simply don't know what the Apple Watch is using as a base for Outdoor Walk but it obviously isn't GPS. The green ring has never accurately measured the amount of time I spend walking so I had to give up using it. The same for Indoor Run. I run outside several times a week for 10k or longer but the Apple Watch isn't using my outdoor averages for making calculations when I run indoors on a machine. It shows my pace to be a full three or four minutes per kilometer slower than my actual pace when I'm running outside and that throws off the calorie count and total distance for an indoor run. The calculations shown on the machine are consistent with my actual run stats when I'm outside but the Apple Watch is always off by more than a third for an indoor run.

Jul 15, 2017 4:17 PM in response to Alexroet

Me too. When I first got my Apple Watch I struggled up six flights of stairs as fast as my arthritic legs would allow me and felt as though I was in danger of a heart attack afterwards. My watch didn't even notice and registered a zero. Yesterday I walked for a couple of hours, fairly slowly, with a walking stick. Afterwards I was shattered but my watch registered next to nothing. There is only one guaranteed method of getting that green circle to shift for me: to play a piece of piano music that has thundering semiquavers in the left hand!


If anyone knows how to get it to register more gentle exercise on the green circle, I might be more inclined to do some…

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