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What counts as "exercise" for the green ring??

Does anyone know what counts as "exercise"? i.e. what does it take to advance the green ring?? All the apple watch info I've seen says "brisk walk". I went for an "outside walk" using the workout app today. I walked for 56 minutes, and did 3.18 miles, with an average heart rate of 128. Yet it only counted as 17 minutes towards my green exercise ring!! What gives? We can't all be Christy Turlington training for a marathon! I'm an out-of-shape working mom with a baby! That's about as good "exercise" as I get these days.

My resting heart rate is pretty low, usually 55-65, so 128 is a pretty decent burn! I think that was a brisk walk! Maybe other people walk faster, but I was pushing a stroller and there were some decent hills.


So does anyone know what the criteria are? Does your heart rate have to be above a certain threshold?


One other thought I had- I was pushing the stroller so my left arm wasn't swinging at my side- could that affect how it measures my motion?

And, would it have made a difference if I had called it "outside run" instead of "outside walk"? I know people that jog a 17" mile...


If the point of this app is to get people to get out and moving around more, it's discouraging for the 'goals' to be so hard to reach. And there are lots of articles these days that say walking may be better exercise than running. For walking to not be "good enough" is pretty deflating.

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Posted on Apr 27, 2015 9:42 AM

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Posted on Apr 28, 2015 3:51 AM

Well I went for another walk last night. 31minutes, 1.67m. Avg heart rate 126.

But this time I called it "outdoor run" instead of outdoor walk. And it says I burned 145cal (vs 196 for my 3.2m walk in the morning) and most importantly- it gave me 31 min of exercise on my green ring. Even though i walked slower, for less time, less distance, and had a lower heart rate- I got 2x as much "credit" for this walk vs the one in the morning (that was twice as long).


So bottom line- calling it run vs walk makes a big difference

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Jun 15, 2015 7:14 AM in response to pjrisner

I don't get how this exercise ring works either...


I'm a 33yr old dog walker and obviously walk at a different rate to when I'm actually exercising so don't actually expect that to show on the ring, but Ive just done 20 mins on the treadmill and averaged 125BPM, yet not one exercise minute??? 😠


How on earth is this supposed to motivate someone to exercise more???


I've only had my watch since Thursday and understand that the watch takes time to 'learn' the users movements to gain accuracy, but this seems daft 😟

Jun 15, 2015 9:05 AM in response to Charles Sholdt

I watched the keynote but don't remember anything about existing features being fixed. I'll have another look.


Regarding "learning" I haven't seen any improved tracking of Calories or other metrics over the 5 weeks I've used my Watch. The Watch learns your gait by checking against your Phone but that only takes 20 minutes. Workout data hasn't changed at all.


A Watch could learn more about an individual's heart rate range but it doesn't seem to.


I have tried a couple of Workouts again recently and the Rower Calories still far too low.


Also, the Watch is showing about 110 Resting Calories/hour, although the Health App knows my Resting Calories have been recorded as around 60/hour. The total Watch Resting Calories/day would be about 1,000 Calories more than I eat.


I bought a Watch that took Heart Rate every 10 minutes but now sometimes never takes my Heart Rate at all unless I select Workout. During a Rower Workout yesterday my Heart Rate was recorded as 200 to 213 for 6 minutes and after a gap of a couple of minutes 62. Neither was close.


There is more than Exercise that's broken.

Jun 15, 2015 11:43 AM in response to Tony0330

I didn't buy the watch for the "exercise ring" per se. But, I did buy it primarily for fitness and health tracking. And, these do not work as they should, including the exercise band. I didn't buy my car for its radio, but I have reason to expect it to function correctly.


I think a number people bought the watch primarily for fitness features and have been disappointed. These problems seem to be software and will be fixed soon, I hope, as an Apple Watch owner and an Apple shareholder.


George

Jun 15, 2015 11:50 AM in response to G3gator

Totally agree with what George is saying.


I bought my Apple Watch as I have a huge interest in my personal fitness whilst I'm losing weight. I also had no way of actually using the Health App without using multiple 3rd party apps to write data.


The watch is supposed to bridge that gap for me and I can honestly say it has helped, but when the Move App isn't working as well as it could be, then people are more than entitled to query when this will be dealt with.


After all, I don't just use my phone to make calls anymore, so why would I use my watch just for telling the time (especially when its been marketed so heavily for the Health and Fitness side of things)???

Aug 27, 2015 2:28 AM in response to nick101

Why doesn't Apple have anything to say about the problems people are having with their Watches?


They changed how the heart rate monitor works in 1.0.1 without explaining why. They haven't responded on clear bugs like BMR on the Watch ignoring BMR in the Health app. Why are the Calories in a workout so astronomically different from non-workout exercise? And why are workout Calories so far short of the work that our exercise machines have done (simply not possible)?


They must know people are wrestling with their Watches trying to get sensible, consistent results but not a word from Apple. But hey, the autumn update gives you a nightstand clock mode. Right.


I wrestled for 3 months and it went on eBay.


Before someone tells me, I know Apple don't read this. Maybe that's half the problem.

Aug 27, 2015 3:17 AM in response to Rob Cumberland

1. Apple has never engaged in general discussion about bugs, issues etc. It's no surprise that they're not making an exception for the watch. They do get engaged in discussions with beta testers and members for their various seed programmes.

2. Watch OS2 will be available in a few weeks and can be expected to include bug fixes as well as the new features that you're not interested in.


My own experience is that, by and large, the watch has done a good job in the areas discussed here. Not perfect, but I never expect perfection from software - anybody's software


None of that helps you much, especially since you've disposed of the watch.

Aug 27, 2015 5:24 AM in response to nick101

Nick, I'm not asking for a general discussion on bugs. I'm just suggesting that early adopters - when a product is so clearly not yet ready - are beta testers. I know Apple doesn't tell us about faults or what it is doing to fix them.


I'm saying maybe they should. If I had half an idea of what they were doing I might have stayed on board.


You say some bugs will be fixed in the autumn but we don't actually know. We don't know which ones or when because Apple hasn't said a word.


I hope it works out for you but I got tired of waiting.

What counts as "exercise" for the green ring??

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