Logic: When recording audio, a loud electronic buzz happens

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Logic: When recording audio, a loud electronic buzz happens

I am using Logic 9 on an iMac.

I use Logic to transfer records and create MP3s.

The record player is connected to my stereo receiver, the receiver to the input of an MAudio FW 410, the MAudio FW 410 to my external hard drive, and my hard drive to my computer (I connected the FW 410 to the hard drive because the FW410 does not have firewire 800, so I connect the FW410 to the hard drive then use the hard drive's FW 800 to connect to the computer)

This setup has always worked fine until recently.

When I transfer my records, Logic stops recording after a few minutes in, and a loud buzz is generated, and I can see the wave form of the buzz where I should be seeing the input of the audio from the record.

I then disconnected the record player to see what would happen and to eliminate the possibility that the record player was the cause of the problem. With the record player disconnected, I still got the buzz simply by arming the record button on the Logic track.

Then I tried transferring the record into GarageBand. The same buzz happened simply by arming the record button in GarageBand.

There seems to be something going on with my computer in regards to inputting sound. I'm not sure if it's a setting in Logic/GarageBand, or if there is some larger computer issues causing the buzz.

Any ideas?

Dual processor 2.5, Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Apr 28, 2015 11:15 AM

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Answer 1

Pancenter

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Apr 28, 2015 1:45 PM in response to rolesh79

Ideas?

First, what changed, you said this used to work fine until recently, have you upgraded OSX from the time it used to work fine?

Once the Buzz starts, you will probably have to reboot.

The last drivers (1.10.5) available for the FW410 are for OS 10.7.4 from mid 2012, If you've upgraded the operating system recently the problem is usually some kind of compatibility between OS and Audio Interface.

If I were you I'd look into getting a firewire 800 ---> 400 adapter and try the 410 directly into the computer.

h

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Answer 2

rolesh79 Author

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Apr 28, 2015 2:37 PM in response to Pancenter

Nothing changed - that's the confusion. This setup used to always work perfectly. Now I get the problem I described. Im using 10.6.8.

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Answer 3

Pancenter

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Apr 28, 2015 3:28 PM in response to rolesh79

Have you installed and audio routing software (sound flower) or any programs that could be running a background task that's causing problems.

In Logic's Preferences, make sure software monitoring is OFF.

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rolesh79 Author

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Apr 28, 2015 3:43 PM in response to Pancenter

I didn't install any software recently. How can I see what's running in the background

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Pancenter

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Apr 28, 2015 4:05 PM in response to rolesh79

Activity Monitor - My Processes

The other thing you can do is create a new user account and sign on with that.

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Let me get this straight, you can record for a while before this happens?

What sample rate are you recording at, 44.1, 48, 88.2 or 96kHz 16 or 24-bit depth.

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Answer 6

rolesh79 Author

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Apr 28, 2015 7:36 PM in response to Pancenter

Correct - Logic will record for a minute or two, then the buzz happens.

The sample rate is 44.1 and I'm at 24 bit

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Answer 7

Pancenter

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Apr 28, 2015 8:37 PM in response to rolesh79

For one thing.... the Recording Delay should be set to 0 <zero> samples not 1000

Set it to zero and try to record again. Also, set the I/O Buffer to 256

If that doesn't fix it, Change the Output device to the Firewire 410 as well.

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Answer 8

Apr 29, 2015 8:46 AM in response to Pancenter

In addition:

Set Rewire Behavior to Off..... if you are not using Rewire...

and...

if that plus Pancenter's suggestions doesn't fix things...

Then....

Please download Etrecheck from here...

http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

..and then launch Logic Pro

Now run Etrecheck and post up the full report here....

Thanks...

Nigel

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Answer 9

Pancenter

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Apr 29, 2015 10:24 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

The Art Of Sound wrote:

In addition:

Set Rewire Behavior to Off..... if you are not using Rewire...

Oops... thanks, didn't even notice that.

I've never seen so many "odd" preference settings in one setup.

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Answer 10

rolesh79 Author

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Apr 29, 2015 2:05 PM in response to Pancenter

How do I turn off rewire? When I click in the box, there is no option for "off" The only options are Playback mode, and Live mode.

Here is the Etrecheck report:

Problem description:

I am getting a buzzing sound when recording in Logic.

EtreCheck version: 2.2 (132)

Report generated 4/29/15 5:03 PM

Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

Hardware Information: ℹ️

iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009) (Technical Specifications)

iMac - model: iMac10,1

1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM

BANK 0/DIMM0

Empty

BANK 1/DIMM0

Empty

BANK 0/DIMM1

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM1

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Video Information: ℹ️

NVIDIA GeForce 9400 - VRAM: 256 MB

iMac 1920 x 1080

spdisplays_display_connector

System Software: ℹ️

Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K540) - Time since boot: 0:10:5

Disk Information: ℹ️

ST3500418ASQ disk0 : (465.76 GB)

- (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 499.76 GB (183.25 GB free)

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GA11N

USB Information: ℹ️

Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

Logitech Apple Optical USB Mouse

Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Firewire Information: ℹ️

Glyph Technologies Oxford ATA Device 00 800mbit - 800mbit max

- (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

East West Sounds (disk1s2) /Volumes/East West Sounds : 250.05 GB (84.41 GB free)

Mac Backup (disk1s3) /Volumes/Mac Backup : 250.05 GB (120.71 GB free)

Videos (disk1s4) /Volumes/Videos : 250.05 GB (200.27 GB free)

iTunes Music (disk1s5) /Volumes/iTunes Music : 249.30 GB (221.08 GB free)

M-AUDIO FW 410 400mbit - 400mbit max

Kernel Extensions: ℹ️

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/Applications/Roxio Toast 6 Titanium/Toast 6 Titanium.app

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/System/Library/Extensions

[loaded] com.m-audio.driver.firewire (1.10.2) [Click for support]

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/System/Library/Extensions/PACESupportFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns

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Startup Items: ℹ️

M-Audio FireWire Audio Helper: Path: /Library/StartupItems/M-Audio FireWire Audio Helper

Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite

Problem System Launch Daemons: ℹ️

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Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.brother.LOGINserver.plist [Click for support]

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[running] com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist [Click for support]

[running] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist [Click for support]

Launch Daemons: ℹ️

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Click for support]

[running] com.m-audio.firewire.helper.plist [Click for support]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]

[running] com.paceap.eden.licensed.plist [Click for support]

[running] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist [Click for support]

[loaded] PACESupport.plist [Click for support]

User Launch Agents: ℹ️

[loaded] com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist [Click for support]

User Login Items: ℹ️

None

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.3.5.4 [Click for support]

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.6.6

Flash Player: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

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SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.1.2 [Click for support]

googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 5.38.6.0 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

iLokClientHelper: Version: 3.5 - SDK 10.5 [Click for support]

JavaPlugin2_NPAPI: Version: 13.5.0

iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

WebEx: Version: 1.0 [Click for support]

Safari Extensions: ℹ️

Open in Internet Explorer

Audio Plug-ins: ℹ️

DVCPROHDAudio: Version: 1.3.2

iSightAudio: Version: 7.6.6

3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

Flash Player [Click for support]

Flip4Mac WMV [Click for support]

PreferencesPane [Click for support]

Time Machine: ℹ️

Time Machine information requires OS X 10.7 "Lion" or later.

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

9% WebProcess

6% PluginProcess

4% Safari

4% Logic Pro

3% MIDIServer

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

328 MB WebProcess

164 MB Logic Pro

156 MB PluginProcess

98 MB WindowServer

86 MB Safari

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

1.47 GB Free RAM

2.53 GB Used RAM

0 B Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

Apr 27, 2015, 06:04:31 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Logic Pro_2015-04-27-180431_[redacted].crash

Apr 27, 2015, 06:01:06 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/PluginProcess_2015-04-27-18010 6_[redacted].crash

Apr 29, 2015, 04:52:21 PM Self test - passed

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Answer 11

Apr 29, 2015 3:14 PM in response to rolesh79

How do I turn off rewire? When I click in the box, there is no option for "off" The only options are Playback mode, and Live mode.

My apologies.. I had forgotten that in LP9 there is no option to turn off rewire support there... There is in LPX but not LP9

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Answer 12

Pancenter

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Apr 29, 2015 3:17 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

The Art Of Sound wrote:

How do I turn off rewire? When I click in the box, there is no option for "off" The only options are Playback mode, and Live mode.

My apologies.. I had forgotten that in LP9 there is no option to turn off rewire support there... There is in LPX but not LP9

Me too, and I'm on Logic 9, shows how long it's been since I looked at my preferences.

Please try the suggestions I posted... the 1000 samples in recording delay should not be set that way, you may have corrupted preferences files.

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rolesh79 Author

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Apr 30, 2015 5:46 AM in response to Pancenter

I have done everything you mentioned so far, yet the buzz is still there. Any other ideas?

Thanks

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Answer 14

Pancenter

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Apr 30, 2015 6:40 PM in response to rolesh79

1. You're tried creating a new user account sign on to the new account and record from that?

2. And you haven't installed -any- other audio related software....... and set Logic's recording delay to 0 (Zero) samples

3. Uncheck Software Monitoring.

The last thing to try is deleting Logic's preferences.

With Logic not running.

Delete the Logic preferences file AND control surfaces file. (they will be rebuilt next time Logic starts)

In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu. note: type exactly as --> ~/Library/Preferences
Press the Go button.
Remove the com.apple.logic.pro.plist file from the Preferences folder.

Then delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.

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Answer 15

rolesh79 Author

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May 1, 2015 11:25 AM in response to Pancenter

I tried everything on your list above. The noise still occurs. I include a link to my soundcloud so you can hear the noise. This sound occurs just by arming the record button in Logic and GarageBand.

https://soundcloud.com/rolesh79/noise

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