Bluetooth Interference - Apple Watch and iPhone 6

I didn't answer your question because I chose not to because I never asked you to diagnose my issues, and I am now certain you are not qualified to do so. What I did do was rebuff your attempts to shift blame onto third party manufacturers and away from Apple.

So what makes you an authority on Apple code or hardware? Why should anyone place any stock in your unpersuasive opinions unsupported by evidence? Are you an Apple employee or contractor? Do you procure hardware for Apple? What makes your opinion on Apple code or hardware anything but another opinion? Is Apple compensating you to make these claims?

As for Samsung phones? I have no idea. I don't and have never owned a phone made by Samsung. So why drag Samsung into this? Are you trying to shift blame now on Samsung? Your new argument is "well Samsung has BT problems too?" Seriously?

seminolefans wrote:

The causes could be many! `

I think deggie and I both agree on that. All the causes you postulate that could mean the problem is with the iPhone could just as easily apply to the car. Assuming that the fault is always Apple's is ludicrous.

You are starting to steal my line now about many variables.

In the example you use about connecting, losing connection, etc. with an older 2.0 device that would not involve Apple coding. All backwards compatibility for connecting with older devices is contained in the firmware on the chipset, Apple's engineers do not write thousands of lines of code for connecting with legacy systems. If there was a "bug" in the chipset that would not connect with the BT 2.0 used in the Honda Fit the only way to correct it would be to replace the chipset in all the iPhones. But that is an unlikely event. As new standards are released the code for older, final versions of Bluetooth, like 2.1, are pretty much locked in and carry from chipset to newer chipset. But if you have a car that used a new stereo system with 2.1 there is a much, much higher likelihood that errors in implementing the BT standard would be in the 2008 older vehicle. Hopefully there would be a way to update the firmware. In my Chrysler model cars there was no way to do that and they have trouble with newer phones from any manufacturer.

Again if you want to take the time you can find BT issues with all the other manufacturers of phones. Just too many variables. I would guess the least number of problems you would find would be with smartphones running Windows 8.

I'm not assuming the fault is always Apple's! I am saying that there are countless reports of people having BT connectivity problems with Apple iPhones and over 20 manufacturers of autos (and numerous other computer peripherals) -- therefore strongly suggesting that the problem may be at Apple's end. If it's not, Apple should be able to rule it out. But they have to be willing to consider the complaints of users -- which does not mean trolling complainers and shifting blame to third party manufacturers.

No, you didn't answer because by now you have determined that there is not device that would be running a mixture of 1.0, 3.0 and 4.0, it makes no sense.

What 20 manufacturers?

You can't get it through your head that this doesn't mean that the iPhone doesn't work with all the cars with those manufacturers or even the majority. It means that the authors have seen complaints (usually from here) that people have posted such issues and say they have these cars. But they don't specify the year, the model, which electronics are being used, etc. In some threads here where people complained it didn't work later someone comes along and solves their issue. Other times they go to their dealer and solve their problem, Sometimes they go to Apple and solve their problem.

But by your logic Samsung also has a major problem with BT, HTC has a major problem with BT, LG has a major problem with BT, etc. As Meg already said the only common denominator is Bluetooth.

I seriously doubt I will live long enough to ever see the release of a new smartphone with an new OS that doesn't have issues pairing with BT in cars.

Really? An iPhone 5 or 6 doesn't run BT 2.X, 3.X and 4.0? (Hint: Answer is Yes). An Apple Watch doesn't use BT 4.0 while the phone is simultaneously paired with an auto with BT 2.0? (Hint: Answer is Yes).

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I have similar connection problems with our Cadillac SRX and our Lexus. My apple watch automatically disconnects when I take either car. I have discovered that I can have either car and the apple watch connect by turning bluetooth off on my iPhone and back on. However, this is a hassle if you do not discover this until you are already driving

I am having the exact same problem with my car/iphone/iwatch

...me too - I have three Bluetooth connections in total when sitting in my car. Two go to the Car Entertainment System (Kenwood DNX4280BT) for phone and audio streaming, another one serves the Apple Watch. I'm on iOS 9.1, by the way. And I have clearly identified the Apple Watch BT connection as the one that's interfering with the other two. Mostly, I have a very rough phone connection and bad audio streaming, both with interruptions, crackling etc. then.

The workaround that I momentarily use before entering my car is to switch Flight Mode on and then again off on my iPhone which leaves the Watch in Flight mode so that the Watch's BT connection stays temporarily disabled. After a little while, when the phone and audio streaming BT connections are safely established, I switch the Watch's Flight Mode off and let it establish its BT connection to the iPhone. Then, everything works fine, but obviously it's really a hassle to go through this procedure every time I enter my car, especially when just stopping for some gas or similar.

It seems to be some sort of "timing" problem. Like I said, after the phone and audio connections are established, I can enable the Watch's BT connection safely but not vice versa.

Hope this will be fixed anytime soon, but somehow I have little hope for that...

G.

Slame problem with my new watch and my Mazda 6 and my iPhone 6s Plus. Music syncing was perfect since the update recently of bluetooth to 4.2 by apple.

Now i get the dropping of music intermittently and the Mazda display does not show the music time counting off. Very obvious interference by my new watch. I guess I will have to put in airplane mode when driving. I'm using watch OS 2.01 so have latest OS.

Hope they find a fix.

Russ

Further report. After looking around and finding many with this interference issue and their car sound systems bluetooth connections I found the only "solution" or work around as many have said is to have the watch on airplane mode when I am in car and wanting to use my Mazda 6 Connect system (phone calls or music).

Without doing the connections went flaky:

1) music played from phone with constant dropping of audio every 10-15 seconds, the mazda connect would not increment the time status of a tune anylong just stuck and when new tune was moved to (the music was playing and updating on my watch screen ok -- but audio was thru the car and it was badly intermittent.

2) the connection issues had my playlist updating wonky also and even when normally synced after 10 seconds of car starting it was taking minutes. After that the flakyness of play was noted.

3) the bad connections/interference also reset my clock to UTM time somewhere 6 hours earlier and it was hard for me to find the time to go back in my Mazda connect settings (after all it is Microsoft software LOL)

so for now I just go to airplane mode on watch and the basic function work fine just some of the interent stuff no but do not need when I am runing car anyway.

Oh just update for particulars on what I have for hardware software:

iPhone 6s 128 space grey (iOS 9.1) , Apple Watch stainless 42 mm (watch OS 2.01), MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013), iPad Air 1 128 GB (iOS 9.1), Apple TV 4 64 GB

Mazda 6 (2016 model) with latest Mazda Connect software.

I would have edited but it seems that feature is no longer visible/available.

I'm also having interference issues with my Apple Watch and my Powerbeats 2 Wireless. I realized the Apple Watch was causing the interference through my own findings before finding this thread.

iPhone 6 Plus + Powerbeats 2 Wireless = Good

Apple Watch + Powerbeats 2 Wireless = Good

iPhone 6 Plus + Watch + Powerbeats 2 Wireless = Lots of interference. Music cuts out frequently.

I submitted feedback for the Apple Watch through the feedback link which was provided to me by customer support via chat: http://www.apple.com/feedback/

I hope there is an update that fixes this issue soon. 🙂

nick101 wrote:

Can I suggest you post this to the Apple feedback site (link below) - the dev won't see it her (Apple doesn't participate directly). Or call Apple support - this is the first instance I've seen of Bluetooth interference.

It might be that a restart would fix it - worth a try

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Just gave them feedback on this recurring issue for me with my Mazda Connect system

Russ Jacobson