Q: iOS keyboard shortcuts
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May 13, 2015 12:16 PMby charles.damboise,It did not answer my questions, i accidentally pressed a button saying it did, action which i cannot undo, nor can i delete the question that i marked as answered..
there were two questions, one was not answered at all, and the other, not to my satisfaction, it was a partial answer.
what is meant by 'iOS shortcuts'?
i was expecting something like this, but for iOS and not OSX:
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May 13, 2015 12:25 PMby ChrisJ4203,You were referring to the keyboard, and it was referring to shortcuts you would use on the keyboard to get the iOS device to do something. There are no real standard iOS shortcuts as far as Apple is concerned, they do not exist. With a touch keypad on the iOS device, it is not possible to press more than one key at a time. What was not answered to your satisfaction? You need to contact the keyboard manufacturer to get information about what shortcuts they are creating/providing and how to access them. As I provided in my original answer, I can use a special key or combination of keys to emulate the pressing of a particular key/button on my iOS device. There is a key for the home button, there is a key combination to make the device think I tapped to select and copy some content, etc. However, they are created by the keyboard manufacturer. That is also why I provided you with the link to the manual for my Logitech keyboard so you could see what I was referring to. As far as the keyboard disabling a function of the iOS device, you would have to question Logitech on that one as well, since it is a 3rd party device.
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May 13, 2015 12:36 PMby charles.damboise,According to this:
http://www.macstories.net/tutorials/a-list-of-new-ios-7-keyboard-shortcuts/
the keyboard shortcuts are implemented at the software level in iOS/apps and work using any bluetooth keyboard.
i was just wondering if there was a up to date list for iOS 8
also i have no idea why the spelling correction stops woking when using the bluetooth keyboard in another langage. it will work in english but not in french.
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May 13, 2015 12:35 PMby bobseufert,There are two kinds of keyboard shortcuts., the built in ones like in your link and Chris referred to above and the kind you add like if I type aw. An example of a buillt in one on the onscreen keyboard would be to tap the spacebar twice to get a period and a space. The apple I added.
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May 13, 2015 12:40 PMby ChrisJ4203,HelpfulNo, it did not say any Bluetooth keyboard, it has to have been implemented by the app developer first, so even if they exist in iOS, if the app developer has not implemented them into their keyboard for the iOS device, then it wouldn't matter. Then, it would take an external keyboard to support it. So there has to be more than one thing going on for it to work. As far as a list, that would be at the developer level, since they would have to code that into their app. That is why the article you posted showed some of them, since a list does not exist at the user level. The app developer would have to provide the documentation for what shortcuts the will or will not support. And as you have unfortunately found out, the use of external keyboards can disable some features.
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May 13, 2015 2:14 PMby charles.damboise,In the case of pages/keynote/numbers/mail/iOS it would be great if Apple provided a link to some shortcuts that could be helpfull with a bluetooth keyboard.
My point is that there are some shortcuts that do work, and i can't find a reference to them in the app's help section that could include a 'shortcut' section to help achieve better workflow with the apps.
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May 13, 2015 2:19 PMby ChrisJ4203,HelpfulThen provide feedback to Apple if you would like to see that, http://www.apple.com/feedbackand then click on the appropriate subject area. As far as 3rd party apps, you would have to deal with them about that. The keyboard question about the difference in spell check in English and French, might need to be addressed with the keyboard manufacturer.
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May 13, 2015 2:53 PMby charles.damboise,what should be clear is that there are bluetooth keyboards that implement 'functions' (fn key) related to iOS operations (volume up, down etc) and there are command keys that are implemented by the OS and have nothing to do with being implemented by the keyboard or not...
so some shortcuts or buttons on a keyboard (bluetooth or not) can be implemented by it's manufacturer, while other are 'standard'. correct me if i'm wrong, but unless your computer's driver is messed up AND unless you connect a keyboard that sends the letter 'w' when you press the letter 'e', when you press the letter 'e' on a standard keyboard, the computer displays it no matter what brand of keyboard you are using...
and if a logitech or any brand keyboard manufacturer makes a button that does a special function, until the keyboard driver is installed, it will never work, but when you press a letter button, the default keyboard driver will display the letter you pressed..
my whole point is that if an app manufacturer makes the app do something when you press cmd-something, the keyboard manuf. does not need to do anything special... other than 'implement' a standard cmd key...
as far as the spell checking not working in apple's 'pages', i don't think it's a logitech keyboard issue.. as it does the same problem when bluetooth is off, using the iPad's screen keyboard.
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May 13, 2015 2:58 PMby ChrisJ4203,I think we are both arguing the same thing here. I was referring to the fact that the keyboard manufacturer had to provide these additional keys, or in the case of my Bluetooth keyboard, they provide special keys to be used in combinations that emulate certain keystrokes on the iPad. I also agree, press an "e" get an "e". I never disputed that. I also agreed that if the app developer does as you say, then yes, it has to exist on the keyboard for it to work. That is not always the case. Either way, you may want to contact Apple support to ask them about the Pages spell check issue. I cannot answer that, or you can post another question just about the spell check in the Pages for iOS forum. Have a great day.
