Bootcamp drivers issue (Windows 10 + encrypted ntfs disk - TrueCrypt and all other)

Hi,

I have interesting issue - after installing Windows 10 on MacBook Air (I have tried on 2 differnt ones) it is possible to create encrypted ntfs drive (for example with TrueCrypt, VeraCrypt and other similar). However after running setup of Bootcamp drivers for Windows there is an issue: all those program stop to work with NTFS drives (they still allow to work with FAT drives). The problem cannot be undone (even after uninstalling Bootcamp on Windows NTFS drives are still not accessible).

Even more amazing - when I run Windows 10 under Parallels Desktop it works fine with NTFS encrypted volumes.

The problem does not appear on Windows 7, Windows 8 and 8.1 (I have tested all of them with Bootcamp drivers installed on Windows).

Do you have any clue, what is the reason of this problem and how to make it work?

hcsradek

MacBook Air, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 8

Posted on May 16, 2015 3:42 PM

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Jul 20, 2015 2:46 PM in response to Loner T

Loner, with all the respect, how many times I have to repeat, that the problem is the same for ALL encryption software when one tries to create NTFS drive? So the problem of TrueCrypt source code is not the key... The problem is with BootCamp drivers which causes all of the encryption software to stop working. So I would expect that someone from Apple would re-create the problem (it is so easy: install Windows 10, install BootCamp and try to make NTFS container with any kind of encryption software - TrueCrypt seem to be the easiest, but they can use Symentec or VeraCrypt or anything).


Best,

hcsradek

Jul 20, 2015 3:10 PM in response to hcsradek

With the same respect...

The problem cannot be undone (even after uninstalling Bootcamp on Windows NTFS drives are still not accessible).

Can you explain this statement in the OP? Does everything work without the BC drivers installed? Have you tested with individual drivers being installed one at a time to narrow down which driver is the culprit so a solution can be sought?


This may help solve the problem or at least have a logical explanation, instead of it not working at all for many users who come after us to read this discussion.

Jul 21, 2015 7:59 AM in response to Loner T

I am not sure what is unclear:

- after fresh windows installation - TrueCrypt (and other) works fine with NTFS drives

- after installing Bootcamp it stops working with NTFS drives

- after UNinstalling Bootcam it still does not work with NTFS drives

I have no idea what is being installed ** Bootcamp and why the installation process doesn't revert it...


After individual drivers being installed it works, however in this method I am not getting the full functionality of Bootcamp (for example management of brightness, the Bootcamp control panel in not installed etc.) - this suggests that this is something, what is installed besides the drivers.


Best,

hcsradek

Jul 21, 2015 8:13 AM in response to hcsradek

hcsradek wrote:


I have no idea what is being installed ** Bootcamp and why the installation process doesn't revert it...

My suggestion is to debug this a bit further.


hcsradek wrote:


After individual drivers being installed it works, however in this method I am not getting the full functionality of Bootcamp (for example management of brightness, the Bootcamp control panel in not installed etc.) - this suggests that this is something, what is installed besides the drivers.


Precisely. Please see Bootcamp.xml for the list of the entire driver set. My suspicion is the AppleHFS.sys and AppleMNT.sys are the culprits. Since you already have the capability to play around, can I suggest you remove these two and test? This will allow the entire BC driver set to be installed with a working TrueCrypt, if the two suspect drivers address the issue. This should help future users of a similar environment.


I downloaded the 7.1a source code from GRC, and will try and build it out of my own curiosity. The product is primarily for Windows. There is some very interesting material on DFS.

Jul 23, 2015 6:08 AM in response to hcsradek

hcsradek wrote:


I have simply deleted both files from c:\Windows\System32\Drivers - now Autorun says that "file not found" but TrueCrypt works again with NTFS partitions and BootCamp installed :-).

Can you repair all your drivers, so you have full Apple hardware functionality, including screen brightness, sound, keyboard, etc. and then just remove these two to make sure it continues to work? The other option is remove Windows and install a new copy, remove these two and test.


I am 😀 to see it working. If I get a chance, I will debug further to check if the HFS/MNT can be made to coexist with TrueCrypt.

Jul 23, 2015 1:55 PM in response to Loner T

Hi, yes - I have full Apple functionality (I have not noticed any change after deleting that 2 files). My procedure is following:

1. Install fresh Windows 10 (TrueCrypt works with NTFS drives)

2. Install Bootcamp (modified - with deleted 2 entries from BootCamp.XML) (TrueCrypt stops working with NTFS partitions)

3. Delete 2 files from c:\Windows\System32\Drivers and reboot (TrueCrypt starts to work again with NTFS partitions)

Best,

hcsradek

Oct 22, 2015 2:43 PM in response to Loner T

I have upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my PC, and experienced the same issue for my secondary 1 TB HDD.


I was able to boot from the primary SSD but the secondary HDD showed as a raw space on Disk Management. So I was not able to browse it and was receiving an error saying "F:\ is not accessible. Incorrect function." when I double-clicked it.


I actually had to use a data recovery tool to successfully access the HDD (data was indeed intact, I was able to copy files out of the drive) and was trying to free up some space for the recovery...


However, simply renaming "AppleHFS.sys" to "AppleHFS.sys.bkp" and rebooting fixed the issue in my configuration as well. Many thanks for the suggestion... You saved a lot of my time!


P.S. I have actually received paid technical support (which costed me around $149) from Microsoft and the case was escalated to level 2. It took around a week, many discussions on the phone, and a lot of remote access sessions for them to say that they were not able to resolve this issue, and they suggested me to seek for professional help from a data recovery office. Wish I could now show those guys how easy and fast this fix actually was :-). Also, it took around 3 months and at least 10 phone calls to get a full refund...

Oct 22, 2015 2:46 PM in response to emreerokyar

emreerokyar wrote:


P.S. I have actually received paid technical support (which costed me around $149) from Microsoft and the case was escalated to level 2. It took around a week, many discussions on the phone, and a lot of remote access sessions for them to say that they were not able to resolve this issue, and they suggested me to seek for professional help from a data recovery office. Wish I could now show those guys how easy and fast this fix actually was :-). Also, it took around 3 months and at least 10 phone calls to get a full refund...

Glad that they gave you back your money. 😎

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