What is the difference between Photos and All Photos

i agree!, my wish is for photos bring back the features use to work fine on iPhotos, now with the new photos, i notice i take much less photos, and when i do, i gave up on organizing my photos! it is a chore, no longer a pleasure!

Cocoplum201 wrote:

my wish is for photos bring back the features use to work fine on iPhotos,

And exactly what features are those?

LN

and when i do, i gave up on organizing my photos! it is a chore, no longer a pleasure!

Photos is meant to free you from the task of having to organize the library by making most f the organisation automatic. Only that means, that we will start fighting Photos, if we want the organisation different. I use the predefines library items "Moments, Collections, Years", the predefined smart albums, and all other organisation I am doing is adding metadata to the photos so I can create a few additional smart albums. But I no longer bother with moving photos between library items. In iPhoto I invested a lot of work into moving photos between events, and now the collections are automatically creating this structure.

Thank you for responding to my post, I appreciate it.

Features in iPhoto's that were convenient, intuitive and more effecient that I now missed are as follows;

- Flexible thumbnails (2 finger reduce and enlarge photos)

- Arrow drop down in photo to: rotate -hide-trash - cut-copy-show event

- Split photos in one event and tag it or not

- Ability to Merge photo into events by drag and drop (under library-photo)

- Split /Select photo (one or more) to individually tag without tagging the whole group

- One step delete, without required drop down box and reply "delete "

I wish that technology won't force me to have to change my format and relearn and reorganize decades of photos. If you(Apple) must, at the least , on all new features show me with a drop down box and explain to me what it is and what is it for, and how to use it? It is super tedious to search for answer on the web, multiply that by tens and millions user who are experiencing the same difficulty seems to be a waste of time and energy. Right now I feel very much alienated from the new and better "Photos ".

Thank you.

Thank you Léonie for this attempt of clarification.

There is still "for me" a lack of evidence of difference between the 2 names:

• Photos

• All Photos

I never used the "Image > Hide Photo" function.

I never used the "iCloud".

Nonetheless, I have a small difference between these 2 presentations "Photos" versus "All Photos".

One thing is perfectly clear, "All Photos" is larger than "Photos", but I don't feel easy to get the photos

which are constituant of the difference and what might be the use of this difference.

Is it possible that the core difficulty to understand this difference is coming from much too

similar names?

How to identify the photos which constitute the difference and how to remove it so as to avoid

living with ununderstandable and apparently useless differences?

I'm not sure about the difference in your case.

In my library the items add up perfectly:

As a test, create a new smart album. (File > New Smart Album)

Add two rules combined by "Match all"

• Photo is not Moview
• Photo is not hidden

In my library this album has exactly as many items as the Photos album is showing.

The only items that might not be accounted for by this rule would be pdf files, audio files, any items that are neither photos not videos.

Is it possible that the core difficulty to understand this difference is coming from much too

similar names?

That is unlikely. Photos is keeping track of files with identical names by renaming them on import, and each import is stored in a different subfolder of the Masters folder.

My question was about the similarity of names for a human reader. "Photos" and "All Photos" are very similar names.

"All Photos" is fully clear, when on the other hand the meaning of "Photos" which any human reader will read as "some Photos" is fully ambigous.

I am convinced that the core of the problem is coming of this much too similar names of functions

when one of them stays with an ambiguous name.

I made a blind test among some of my advanced users of Photos, and none of them was able to tell me what is the use of the Photos. Moreover they weren't able to tell if it is a folder, the total library or another advanced function. In fact they never used it.

I get the exact same number of "objects" with this smart album than there are in my "Photos" album(?). But the "All Photos" album(?) is still one object(?) bigger (out of 1000). I must admit that this is really a tiny discrepency and I will survive with it as long as it doesn't grow :). Thank you for your appreciated technically advanced reply.

The very similar names for Photos and All Photos are really a bit unfortunate and not intuitive.

But I like the functionality of both views of the library and use both of them a lot.

TOTALLY AGREE. I had so many photos organized into events, etc. etc. Drop downs on each pix, and now that appears to be gone. I am just now starting to put new photos into a useable arrangement and am struggling. It was SOOOO nice before.