I can't transfer Apple Music to iPod Nano

Hmm,, I wonder, though, if they could use the same auto-delete function that they use for Podcasts. Whenever I plug my Nano into my Mac, all the newest Podcasts are downloaded to it, and all the old ones I've finished listening to are deleted - all automatically. You'd think they could use this same method to delete the downloaded music next time you plug in, if you ever terminated your subscription.

Why does apple music allow me to download the songs to my device (iPhone, iPad, etc) so I can play them when I am not connected, yet when I want to put them on the new nano I cannot. This is absolutely stupid.

iOS devices have Wi-Fi so when they are connected your rights to play Apple Music can be verified. Its not in the least "stupid"; you and others should accept that Apple Music will never be available for the iPod nano, Shuffle, or any of the "legacy" models. Whether Apple have plans for new devices that combine iOS / Wi-Fi with the form factor of smaller iDevices is another matter ,,,

It's amazing how people have been using iPods for more than a decade to play purchased music happily, yet suddenly they become less functional because you can't use them to access a streaming service.

The part that is "stupid" is that I can "download" my music to a device to play offline (while not connected to wifi or anything else for that matter) but I cannot do it to the nano (iMac, yes....iphone, yes....ipod touch...yes...ipod nano...no). Pretty simple. All devices are registered to me. Once I download to my system I should be able to listen to my music on my apple devices. This is what I pay a monthly fee for. The guy that sold it to me at the store (who obviously made a mistake and I get that people make mistakes) told me I could do this and it seems completely logical.

On the other note. Yes, people have been buying music for decades. They also listed to 8 tracks at one point, then cassette tapes, then compact discs... things change. Unfortunately, it is sad that this technology is not up to date. People used to buy music song by song, now we pay a monthly fee to have access to it anywhere and when we want it (see blockbuster vs netflix if you want to learn what I am talking about).

Last note, this is not a "legacy model" it is sold in stores as we speak.

All I would like to do is have a small device that allows me to workout and run that is not the size of an iPhone 6+ and still allows me to use the music I pay for on an ongoing basis. Even the service rep I spoke to at apple about this problem thought this was kind of "stupid" and no, the iPod touch is still too big. Who knows maybe the next update will allow the nano this upgrade. That would make sense.

Until then, I am very dissatisfied with this product

If you want to be able to choose from a vast collection of music and access it for a monthly fee, then obviously there has to be a method of preventing you from continuing to access it if you stop the subscription - just as would be the case with, for example, Netflix. The iPhone and other connected devices can do this by checking that you are still subscribed - in the case of downloaded songs by checking the next time you are connected, which you would normally do fairly frequently. The Nano has no way of doing this, so if you were able to download music you would be able to keep it for ever even if you stopped the subscription: obviously Apple are not going to allow this. The Nano was designed long before Apple Music existed: perhaps in the future there might be a version with connectivity, but we have no way of knowing if this is ever going to be likely.

"People used to buy music song by song, now we pay a monthly fee to have access to it anywhere and when we want it"

Really? The last time I bought an individual song it would have been on 7" vinyl, and I have no desire whatever to pay a monthly fee for music that's rented to me for as long as I keep paying the fee, the artist/publisher continues to makes the media available, and the service provider stays in business. The limitations on use of Apple Music are, I'm sure, far more the result of the terms and conditions imposed by the record companies rather than an arbitrary choice by Apple. As Roger states above, without frequent connection to the 'net there's no way to confirm that you've paid for the rights to play the music you've rented.

Since the day the service was launched Apple's description has stated explicitly that it is not supported on the iPod nano or iPod Shuffle. "Caveat Emptor" definitely applies to anyone who's bought one of these devices since Apple Music was launched and then expresses surprise, disappointment or outrage that they are not compatible.

Really???

And you're no subscriber to Apple Music?

Then why are you replying on this subject?

btw I get that it will never work on wifi-less devices, but it is a pity nonetheless

And I would like to add that most people just by a song and not a whole album

Do you have a percentage breakdown of purchasing habits you cite here? Or is this based upon a sample of one?

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/25/technology/itunes-music-decline/

Actually, that is a feature of iTunes syncing, nothing to do with the Podcasts themselves. You have Podcasts set to only sync Unplayed items, so that every time you sync your device, it ends up with only Unplayed items. Nothing to do with an Automatic system.

That article is 2 years old and compares digital purchases to CDs.

Eexcerp from this page http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/07/nielsen-music-streams-doubled-in-2015-digital-s ales-continue-to-fall/

In 2015, digital track sales were also down thanks to streaming’s rise, dropping 12.5 percent to 964.8 million units in 2015 – a decline from 2014’s 1.1 billion units.

Digital album sales didn’t fare as badly, though. Last year, they declined only 2.9 percent to 103.3 million, down from 106.5 million in 2014.

So you can only use Apple Music on an iPhone? (am slightly confused...) Thanks.

Carolyn108108 wrote:

So you can only use Apple Music on an iPhone? (am slightly confused...) Thanks.

No, you can also use it on iPads, Mac computers, iPod Touches and Android phones.