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I can't transfer Apple Music to iPod Nano

I started Apple Music trial, and I added some songs to My Music library, when I connect my iPod Nano 7g and try to sync. It says that song was not copied to the iPod because it is a subscription item.


It is supposed that I can play them offline, right?

iPod nano, OS X Yosemite (10.10.4), null

Posted on Jul 1, 2015 2:00 PM

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Jul 2, 2015 9:44 AM in response to deggie

Back when the music from the iTunes store had DRM, you could still sync them to your iPos classic, nano, etc. and play them offline (in fact there was no online mode on the old iPods - no network connection at all). You would authorize your device in iTunes and that would enable it to play the DRM protected files.


The music you download for offline listening from Apple Music also has DRM. They could use the same authorization system they used before to enabled playback on those devices. But I think Apple basically considers all non iPod Touch iPods to be dead products or they would have made sure this system would still work with the new Apple Music system (or maybe it will come later).

Jul 2, 2015 3:10 PM in response to matt_brady

Different type of DRM than that used on the various subscription services. If you could install Apple Music songs on the iPod Nano there would be no way to prevent someone from copying the songs back to a computer and then on to someone else plus if you canceled the service those songs would still play. FairPlay worked differently. Since the Shuffle and the Nano have not been updated in more than 2 years you are probably right about them being dead products.

Jul 2, 2015 6:44 PM in response to jsilvamo

Horrible Horrible Horrible. Why can't I copy my music into my iPod nano??????? Then don't sell it !!!! They even have a picture of the iPod nano included with the iPod Touch relating to Apple Music Page (Discover). Where are you Steve Jobs to teach these people how to do their jobs right!!! It has been a mess since you left (may you RIP) 😟 As much I am an apple fan things are starting to fall apart. User uploaded file

Jul 3, 2015 5:16 AM in response to jsilvamo

This is a pity and a great limitation. I am in the same boat. I use an iPod in my car, and I thought I would be able to listen to new music which I have added for offline use from Apple Music.


The interface/effect of viewing and choosing new music seems different in itunes when compared to how it works and tracks added on my iphone.


So - to listen to new music in car I will need to plug in my iphone, in place of the ipod, which is inconvenient.


I might not keep the subscription. Spotify may have aspects which are better . . .


I can see the replies above about iPod nano not being connected, not running iOS, but when I read the Music blurb I felt that obtaining a track for "offline" use would include listening on itunes and ipod.


In the UK, Music sub may not be worth the money. I might still be better buying music and then sort of owning it. If you have ten years with Apple Music and you stop the sub, that music will all disappear.


Tony

Jul 3, 2015 2:44 PM in response to deggie

If they are planning to do that there would be a need for a firmware update on all legacy iPods - Apple would need to ensure that Apple Music downloads couldn't be retained and played on an iPod if your subscription lapses. To be honest, I don't see it happening - its more likely that the current nano might be replaced by an iOS model with a similar form factor, though Apple's current marketing strategy doesn't give the sense that such a product would be a priority.

Jul 8, 2015 10:16 AM in response to jsilvamo

Thanks for posting this question. I tried the same thing to no avail also. Although I'm using a 3rd gen Nano. I understand that the device is older, but it still works fine and I use it while driving because the touch screen of my iPhone and iPod touch make it very difficult and unsafe to use while driving.


I really do like the ability to discover and even download new music, and the price is fantastic for 15 a month for a family also. If I can't use the music the way I want when I want it will be a deal breaker. I don't see Apple coming out with a revised click-wheel device with WiFi capabilities either.


People have said it's because the DRM, but if Apple was able to make sure that if someone pulled a song from an iPod that wasn't theirs it wouldn't play back in 2001 then why can't they put it in the DRM (or something else) that the device and song match that users Apple ID in 2015? I ask this because I synced my iPod nano for the first time after signing up for Apple Music yesterday and noticed all the songs were being updated, even though I hadn't changed what I wanted syncing, It was just updating the information from my "loves" that I'd entered into my music library in iTunes, and when I started shuffling songs my iPod played a stream of some of my favorite music and artists right away. So this tells me there is data that even my old iPod Nano can get from the files and iTunes to play more music I like, so why can't I add my offline to it also? Oh well.

Jul 8, 2015 10:20 AM in response to John Hall

The point is that if you download something from Apple Music and then terminate your subscription the file won't play. If you were able to transfer it to your non-internet-connected iPod there wouldn't be any way of ensuring that the file could only play if you were still subscribed. Hence the prohibition. It's a rental service, and Apple are obliged by the terms of their agreements with the content providers that you can only listen to streamed or downloaded items you haven't purchased if you continue to pay the subscription.

Jul 8, 2015 12:39 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

Thanks for your feedback Roger. I would not expect any of the music I downloaded to work when I terminate my subscription to Apple Music on any device. I wasn't trying to do this to play the system, I just had a different expectation of what Apple meant by using offline at first. I can rent a movie through the iTunes store and play it on my iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and computer (since they are internet connected I guess). I just thought maybe Apple would set themselves apart from the other streaming services by letting people use on other devices, but it's their service. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this. I'll use it for 3 months then purchase what songs/albums I like that I got to preview then move on without Apple Music.

Jul 8, 2015 12:48 PM in response to John Hall

John Hall,


Your response above fits precisely with my feelings. I also thought that playing offline would mean on any device that we own and connect to Apple software. In my case iPod nano 7th gen connects to and has both content and playlists controlled by iTunes.


EXCEPT for Apple Music downloaded for offline use.


Perhaps they will modify.


To paraphrase - - - I'm out!


[and we are the early adopting fans!! ]


Regards,


Tony

I can't transfer Apple Music to iPod Nano

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