I can't transfer Apple Music to iPod Nano

The employees probably did not know the limitation.

One more issue on the older generation iPods is counting the number of plays so that royalties can be paid. You can set the Nano to manually manage your music in which case play counts are not transferred back to the computer when you sync. I suppose Apple could do updates on all past iPods, or iTunes to block manually managing music and disk mode but I doubt that is going to happen. Perhaps they are working on a separate app to sync subscription music to older iPods or a change to iTunes to allow it. Or not.

Slacker radio, you can download ALL stations, ALL playlists, ALL artists, ALL albums. It requires you to update the downloaded music periodically.

Apple has the smartest engineers in the world, so it's not a matter of them knowing how to do it. They just didn't do it (yet).

That's definetly a pity. Spotify or deezer will use that missing feature hopefully by selling products soon. I am fed up to run with my heavy iphone.

Can't wait for that to happen

the Zune is able to download DRM music with their music subscription.

I have the same problem with iPod 4, it can go on WiFi (unlike iPod Nano) but I can't transfer the music from apple music on it, so I think apple stop supporting devices very quickly, 2-4years and buy a new one..8¬(

Been reading rumors that the software engineers that built the iPod nano are no longer working in Apple. Hard to believe but it might be possible since they hardly do any updates to the nano/shuffle.

Keep thinking I wish I can build it myself to fool the providers that there is a WiFi installed.

The argument about being able to load Aple Music onto a Nano and then cancel the subscription is specious. I could just as easily buy a 64Gb iPod touch, fill it with music, turn off wifi, then cancel my subscription and keep all the music. Or do the same with a Mac, loading hundreds of GB of music onto an external hard drive and never using it when I'm connected to the Internet.

I like to take my Nano to the gym, the beach, out for a jog, anywhere I don't want anything as bulky and expensive as my iPhone, iPad or MacBook. Why shouldn't I be able to?

The whole point about Apple Music is finding new music, so most people will connect their Nano to iTunes regularly to freshen their music. This gives plenty of opportunity to implement short-lived DRM licenses that get freshended on reconnect, so Apple could protect the artists against offline hogs by making the license expire after a month or two. Of course, you'd then have the problem of people changing the date on their Nano.

All in all, there are more people out there who'd use it properly, so why penalise them to protect against the minority who would abuse the system? They're probably too busy ripping music off YouTube anyway!

Spotify doesn't allow you to transfer "offline" music to a Nano. You can only transfer "purchased" and "ripped" music, same as with iTunes/Apple Music.

kmbro wrote:

I could just as easily buy a 64Gb iPod touch, fill it with music, turn off wifi, then cancel my subscription and keep all the music. Or do the same with a Mac, loading hundreds of GB of music onto an external hard drive and never using it when I'm connected to the Internet.

I'd love to hear from someone who has tried this - obviously that can't happen for at least a couple of months yet. I would have thought that Apple would have implemented a method of dealing with that idea - they're not stupid.

In 10 years of owning Apple products, I've never been as dumbfounded as I am right now. I literally don't know what to do next. Do I cancel the Apple Music subscription?

I need the Nano for workouts. If I stay with Apple Music, I'll never be able to put any new music on my Nano again (unless they upgrade later)...?

You can still put purchased or ripped tracks on the Nano as before. You just can't put rented music on it for reasons we've discussed.

If Apple have implemented a mechanism to time-limit DRM licenses for music installed on a wifi-capable iPod, why can't they use exactly the same mechanism to time-limit DRM licenses on an iPod that is not wifi-capable?

In order to put purchased music on an iPod Nano I first have to purchase it, which costs me money. Given that I am already paying to rent the music to listen to it on all my other devices, why should I have to pay again in order to listen to it on one specific device?

You can download Apple Music to an Apple Watch and listen to it without the downloading device (iPhone or MacBook) bring present, so why not an iPod? Makes no sense.

It does make sense and it has already been given throughout this thread but I'll give you one scenario:

You decide to manually manage your music on your iPod Nano so you can add songs from multiple computers. How does Apple calculate the amount of royalties they owe to artists since doing so does not transfer play counts?