Windows 10 boot camp

Can I suggest buying a new Mac after W10 is out. Apple allows 14 days for testing and trial (Please verify with your local Apple store/reseller). It will give you a chance to try it and evaluate the machine and W10 together. If you like it you can keep it.

I know it's out of subject but you mentioned 6 yrs+ hardware isn't good.. I wanna buy a refurbished 2012 macbook pro retina 15'' dedicated graphics card geforce 650M and would like to know if you think it will last long considering it's already been 3yrs out... Thanks though

2012 models are a much better choice compared to 2006 models. 2006 models will most likely work, but drivers and compatibility is not in the interest of vendors who make hardware. Planned obsolescence is how revenue streams are kept alive. I would recommend a late 2013 or later model, because these models are first Macs which are UEFI compliant. Running a preUEFI Mac with W10 is not what I would consider a very good choice, unless there are other non-technical constraints.

Thanks though, so you don't recommend 2012 as my main laptop ?

Also since you are a charlie chaplin fan I thought you would be interested in seeing this video that came out today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP8umpgEos0

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Thanks though, so you don't recommend 2012 as my main laptop ?

I will recommend a Late 2013 or later model.

Also since you are a charlie chaplin fan I thought you would be interested in seeing this video that came out today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP8umpgEos0

It is tragic to see such shining examples of achievement being stolen for the sake of money. Thank you for providing the link.

took apple around 6 months to officially support both windows8 and later windows8.1

6 months where I suffered from ½ or boots resulting in fatal bluescreen because of the old boodcamp amd gpu driver

did not care for the new os

No problem.

I really want to ask you something in private but we can't send private message so let me ask you here Loner T.

The MacBook Pro 15 Inch retina has always been my dream computer.

I would do anything for it.

So here's the shot.

- Late 2013
- Macbook pro Retina 15"
- 2.3 ghz i7 turbo 3.6ghz
- 512 gb ssd
- 16 GB Ram
- Intel Iris Pro
- Nvidia Geforce GT 750M (- definetly the most important for me on this machine.)

Price : 2000$ CAD no taxes not a cent more.

2000$CAD=1539$USD

Other is

-Middle 2012

-MacBook Pro Retina 15''

-256GB SSD

-8GB Ram.

-Intel Graphics 4000

-Nvidia Geforce 650M

Apple care until april 2016

Comes with case and bag

Price : 1450$ CAD = 1115$USD.

I don't know what is the right call on that one.

Planning on using the computer for the next 3 years, at least...

I have the Late2013 rMBP - 15-in 2.6 i7/16GB/1TB. I bought from Apple's refurbished store. Have you checked it? It is a bit higher - http://store.apple.com/shop/product/G0PU2LL/A/refurbished-154-inch-macbook-pro-2 6ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display .

I would recommend the Late2013 because it is a UEFI-compliant Mac, which is a key parameter in my decision.

Sorry if I sound like a noob, but what is a a UEFI-compliant Mac ? 😀

thank for the advice though I will take the late 2013, my only hope is that it will last 😝

If you want the one at the Apple Refurbished store, grab it now. These do not last long. They also have a one year AppleCare. 😉

Two replies (sorry about that - just want to get the buying advice out first).

Macs have used EFI 1.1 for quite some time. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is an Intel standard which was considered the next version of the legacy BIOS and also addressed some it's limitations. WiKiPedia has some pretty nice articles.

It allows an interface (and is extensible) to query and manage hardware resources in a modular fashion. The Late 2013 are the first Mac models to comply with it. This unifies the hardware interfaces across many OEMs. You can directly install windows without using BC Assistant on such Macs. You can resize Windows at will, because it uses GPT disks supported by UEFI.

Please see http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/unified-exten sible-firmware-interface/efi-specifications-general-technology.html and other links on this page, if you want to fall asleep in 30 seconds or less. 😉

I just did a fresh installation of windows 10 build 10176, cannot access apple format HDD, apple Bluetooth driver is not working, have a yellow mark on it, all other drivers work, my mac is a 2011 mac mini

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cannot access apple format HDD,

If you Mini is running OS X prior to Yosemite and you have the BC Drivers installed (these contain a JHFS+ driver), you should be able to read the OS X volume. On Yosemite and later, the default is a CoreStorage LVG/LV, which has no drivers provided by Apple. If you post the output of diskutil cs list from OS X Terminal, there may be an option to revert to a JHFS+ file system.

Thank you tho I didn't understand what you said, it's too advanced for me 😁

I always make a windows-to-go usb drive, then boot from this windows-to-go directly, not through bootcamp at all, after booting into the windows, I install the BC drivers, so no bootcamp app of mac os involved... I guess Apple will need to update their BC drivers to fully surport windows 10, at least bluetooth driver doesn't work, tho I dont use bluetooth, also the mac volume was not mounted, can't assign a drive letter for it in disk managerment of windows 10. So we have to wait the new drivers pack from Apple I think, now I switch back to windows 8.1 for now 🙂

1. Does W8.1 let you read the OS X volume?

2. In OSX Terminal run the following commands and post the output after you remove any personal information, as you see fit.

diskutil list

diskutil cs list

3. Windows-to-go is the full Windows OS on a portable medium available under Windows Enterprise licensing. Windows Installer USB created by BCA is not the full Windows OS. Need to clarify what was used. BC Drivers are located in Bootcamp folder of the Windows Installer USB and can be installed/repaired using setup.exe from this folder.