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Upload speed and times

I have uploaded several large video files into iTunes U lately and the time required has been extremely long on all efforts at different times of the day.

Using my university connection (100 Mbps though I'm sure I wasn't getting that upload speed)it took just now 25 minutes
to upload a 393Mb MPEG-4 file.

Has anyone else uploaded large files and experienced slow speeds?

I'm not sure if I'm getting throttled down by the college, Apple or both.

Posted on Nov 1, 2006 2:40 PM

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Nov 2, 2007 1:27 PM in response to Ken Ronkowitz

I don't think this issue should be considered closed. At Spring Arbor University we are experiencing upload failure after upload failure (Timed out) when uploading files as small as 145Mb. At this point I would describe our confidence in iTunes U as an enterprise solution as medium-low. The uncertainty of whether a faculty member can successfully upload a media file is shaking faculty confidence in our iTunes U rollout.

Our networking group has checked everything on this end and found nothing that would contribute to an upload time out.

We are uploading from iMacs, G5's, Macbooks, and still no joy.

Nov 8, 2007 10:18 AM in response to Ken Ronkowitz

There have been a lot of questions raised here that we want to answer and summarize with regards to uploading files to iTunes U. We have worked with a couple of individual schools to get more detail on their reported problems. Let me explain what we've found.

First, a few facts about the iTunes U servers and policies. Yes, there is a limit on the overall file size that can be uploaded to iTunes U - 500 MB. And this currently cannot be detected before the file starts uploading. So if your users begin uploading a file that's too big, our upload page will not display an error until the 500 MB limit is reached. This may result in an error that feels like a timeout, but actually is not.

The iTunes U server does not have a rate limit, cap or minimum on how fast or slow files can be uploaded.

There are a lot of factors that can be part of the problem if you are seeing or hearing of upload failures, timeouts or slow activity. While working with a few schools we have uncovered a few factors to consider.

Some people's expectations of how fast a file should upload can be off. This may be due to how fast they can download a file (which is often faster due to asynchronous network rates) or based on how fast they can upload a file to a system on campus (which may be faster due to the proximity of the server and the fact that the upload may take place entirely on the campus WAN or LAN making it more efficient). We recommend doing some speed tests with a 3rd party to see if you can upload data to other points on the Internet at a comparable rate (keep in mind the difference between a bit and a byte). The following web site can measure upload and download speeds from your point on a network to other locations around the country and world. We recommend picking the San Jose, California node to do a test that is roughly equivalent to uploading a file to the iTunes U server (due to the proximity of San Jose to our data center): http://www.speedtest.net/

We have found in one case where a school's network administrators have placed rules on their firewall and network routers which limit the speed at which files can be sent out of the campus network and onto the commodity Internet. We understand this is an effort to thwart peer-to-peer file swapping activities by slowing them down, but has the collateral effect of slowing down other upload activity.

Another factor could be a known bug/behavior of Microsoft Internet Explorer browsers on Windows. The details are provided in the link below:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;329781

For those of you who are looking for even more technical information on bandwidth throughput, you may find the following articles and tools helpful:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-6346_11-5034413.html
http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks

Nov 20, 2007 11:48 AM in response to Ken Ronkowitz

As of October 25th I have been unable to upload any files to iTunes U - the files are timing out. I’ve tried uploading files with both Firefox and Safari on a Mac G5. I was previously successful with Firefox on the G5. As of yesterday, November 19, the bandwidth on our campus was doubled and our students left over the weekend for Thanksgiving break – so not much traffic on a higher bandwidth and my 300 mb files are still timing out. Any suggestions?

Nov 21, 2007 10:50 AM in response to barose

Duncan:

We have done all necessary speed tests, use all mac hardware and software, have exported files correctly, and still cannot upload files reliably. Rich Wolf has been great helping us set up Woolamaloo. GO RICH! We have also been using scripts that University of Michigan has helped us use for the past few years.

All of these upload strategies: Scripts, Web interface in Safari and Firefox, as well as Woolamaloo, cannot upload files larger than about 145 MB. PDFs, small audio, small video work, but anything larger than 150 ish MB and especially 300 MB or larger, and we have a very unsuccessful track record. As we troubleshoot, we keep running into the same problem with multiple options for uploads. This leads us to believe that the problem may not be with us.

We have done everything we know to accomplish this. I have spoken with other schools who have this same uploading issue who just deal with iTunes U's instability to upload. We're not sure what to do here. We want iTunes U to work. We want it to be something we can confidently bring to our faculty. We want to be able to be a resource for those coming behind us. But we can't at this time.

Could you please advise us on what we should do? We're currently contemplating purchasing Leopard Server and implementing Podcast Producer. But if we can't get the upload issue straightened out, I'm not sure if we want to invest in more hardware. We don't know where to turn or who to ask.

Could you help? We want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Thanks in advance.

Jason Archer
Spring Arbor University

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