Is there a way to stop iTunes from automatically assigning album ratings?

Ever since I upgraded to Windows iTunes 12.2.1 (or maybe a version before), I've noticed that iTunes is automatically assigning album ratings to my albums.

I have a set of smart playlists that pull in songs that have no ratings, so that I can listen to them and eventually give them a rating.

Now that iTunes is giving my songs an "album rating", these playlists no longer work.


As near as I can tell, it looks like when I have a playlist on my iPhone (I've seen this with both iOS 8.3 and 8.4) with only 1 song from an album, if I rate that song with 3 stars, then the next time I sync with iTunes, the album rating for that song (and every other song on that album) will be set to 3 stars (even though typically I still haven't even listened to the other songs on the album yet).

Note that this is not the hollow or light stars that seem to get set based on an average of songs in the album. These are filled in stars.

I can go in and remove the ratings, but that's a lot to do when I've been listening to a lot of music.

so...

Is there a way to stop iTunes (or maybe it's the Music app on the iPhone) from automatically assigning these album ratings?

or is there a way to create a smart playlist that is based on just song rating and ignores album rating?

Thanks

Posted on Aug 7, 2015 10:56 PM

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Dec 14, 2015 3:20 AM in response to cmichel42

  1. This seems to be a bug. You can report problems via the relevant feedback form, e.g. iTunes Feedback, or sign up for a free Apple Developer Connection account and make use of Apple Bug Reporter.
  2. You can edit album ratings individually where the album rating is shown in various views in iTunes, although in the Songs view you must show and expand the left-hand artwork column and use the control there, the Album Rating column isn't active.


Use my ClearTrackAutoRating script to supress track auto ratings.


tt2

Feb 19, 2016 9:41 PM in response to turingtest2

Perfect! Your info allowed me to manually remove all the album star ratings that had creeped into my iTunes library. I was then able to recreate my playlists that use the song's stars.


I'm not sure how the album stars got created. My guess is that when I changed the rating of songs on my iPhone it created album stars. During a workout I use Siri to change the star rating of songs I'm listening to - (Hey Siri) "Rate this song 3 stars".


Thanks again for your post. It solved my problem.

Dec 6, 2015 10:19 AM in response to cmichel42

Doesn't look there's been any update to fix this 😟

I see a similar issue here (w/ turingtest2's comments as well), sounds like there are others as well.

How do I stop automatic album ratings?


Apart from stopping the "soft" auto-ratings after the fact, doesn't look like there's any fixes.😟


turingtest2 -- Do you understand the underlying structure of how these ratings work? I updated your script to run on non-auto ratings and it *seems* to solve my problem. (I changed the updatable check to run on .AlbumRatingKind=0).

This fix seems to make sense, but will there be any side-effect to setting the album rating to 1%? Is there a way to completely remove the album rating instead of setting it to 1%?


For context, I'm trying to make a smart playlist with all of my unrated songs released in 2015 so that I can go through and rate any unrated songs and eventually make a best-of 2015 list. Unfortunately, many albums where I rated just a few songs now have album ratings that prevent the creation of a smart playlist based on rating not being set.


When I modified your script and ran it, the unrated songs I selected now appear in my smart playlist (good!). If I check the underlying album rating though, I see it really is set to 1% (I checked this by copying a playlist and pasting it into excel which shows the underlying data values)


Thanks!

Jan 28, 2016 2:45 PM in response to cmichel42

If you’re having trouble creating a ‘My Top Rated’ playlist because of the way iTunes mucks about with your ratings, try the following steps on your main computer (Mac or Windows):


  • Go to My Music. Look at your list of Songs (make sure you have Songs not Albums in the top right corner).
  • Right click on any column heading and you’ll see a list of things you can have as columns. Make sure you have a tick next to both Rating and Album Rating. This will help you see what’s happening.
  • In your list of Songs, see if you can now get rid of some of the Ratings you don’t want. There might be black ratings or grey ratings. You should be able to edit black ratings but not grey ones. To edit a rating, click on a star and slide to the left. You can slide left all the way to zero. If you can get rid of some of the black ones the grey ones might disappear as well. At this point your problem may or may not be fixed. If you can get rid of all the ratings you don’t want - hurrah!
  • If there are ratings you can’t edit, don’t despair. If you can edit Album Ratings but you have thousands of them and you don’t want to go through them one by one, don’t despair, read on. If you have iTunes 12.3.2 like me, you won’t be able to edit Album ratings at all. That’s OK. Read on.
  • Normally, getting rid of a black album rating should get rid of grey song ratings. If you can’t edit Album Ratings, or if there are too many to do one by one, do the following. Click on the column heading for Album Rating, to sort all your songs by this column. This should bring together a lot of the songs you want to edit.
  • Click on a song at the top of a group you want to edit and then shift click on the song in the bottom of the group. All the songs you want to edit should now be highlighted. Right click on the highlighted group and click on Get Info. You should get a message asking you if you want to edit multiple songs at once. Click on Edit Items.
  • The list you get should contain a little Rating bar, but here’s the trick: Don’t set the song rating to zero. Set it to one star. If you put it to zero, iTunes will consider that you have not rated the items and will let the Album Rating take over and put in grey stars. If you put in one black star, this overrides grey stars.
  • Having one star should keep all these songs out of your Top Rated list.


Did this work? Please let me know with a reply.

Hi turingtest2, love your work! In iTunes 12.3.2 Album Ratings are present, but can't be edited! Stars no longer appear beside album art and you can't edit them in the Songs list. Album Ratings have been replaced by the heart, which you can turn on or off. Although you can no longer edit the Album Rating, any manual Album Ratings that have ever been made will still put grey stars in song Rating. Looks to me like Apple are half way through abandoning Album Ratings, but it's been left in a bit of a mess. The above worked for me after a long and expensive call to Apple Support. I've been promised follow-up, so they recognise that it's a mess. I'd love to hear your opinion.

Sep 13, 2015 8:08 PM in response to turingtest2

So sad 😟 I looked for other posts, but looks like still no one has found an explanation for when exactly it happens. It definitely doesn't happen with every song rating/sync.

Crossing my fingers they can fix it soon, as I still haven't found a workaround (although the frequency with which it happens seems to have gone done -- can't really explain that one)

Sep 22, 2015 2:48 PM in response to turingtest2

I don't see album ratings when I pull up "Get Info" Only song rating appears there.

From the main playlist view, clicking to the left used to work, but stopped in version 12.3. (it's not just clearing the rating, I can't change it at all).


Interestingly, in trying to test this out, I tried changing the song rating in playlist view and when I do that, the solid star album rating also changes.

It will change for a moment to the song rating, then it changes to what I suspect is the computed album rating.

For example, if I have an album that has mostly 4 star ratings and I change one of them to 1 star. The sold 4 star rating will change to 1 solid star for a moment, then it will revert back to 4 solid stars.

I can understand why that would happen with the "light" stars since I think that's supposed to be the estimated album rating, but I'm not sure why some of my albums have gotten into this state where iTunes is trying to assign solid ratings.

Dec 6, 2015 11:01 AM in response to cmichel42

HI,


You shouldn't need to adjust the Updatable function in those scripts. Auto-ratings are applied automatically when the manual rating is 0% or unrated. The scripts set a manual rating of 1% which suppress autorating only when the current track or album is autorated. This lets you continue to apply manual ratings when you wish to. If you don't use the scripts albums will get an autorating from the mean average of any rated tracks, and unrated tracks will gain an autorating if the album is rated. I suppose there might be cases where you need to tweak smart playlist rules a little. For example use rating is less than 1 star rather than rating is 0 stars if setting to 1% manages to include tracks that should have been excluded, although testing here I seem to get the same results which suggest iTunes is rounding down.


tt2

Dec 6, 2015 11:39 AM in response to turingtest2

If I don't change the Updatable function, the script only updates items that iTunes thinks were auto-rated (the hollow stars)

My problem is with the songs that were assigned solid ratings by iTunes (a type of auto-rating, but they aren't marked as auto-rated)

All I want to do is remove those ratings, but the current iTunes UI won't let me, plus the problem is getting worse and it's a pain to fix them one at a time.


I'm actually ok with the hollow-star auto-ratings since they don't seem to impact my smart playlists.


Good points on the smart playlist rules, the rule I use is rating = 0 stars (as opposed to rating is not set, which isn't even an option). This is picking up the rating of 1% as a 0 star rating, so 1% seems to work.

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