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Mac Mini Drive Replacement Option(s)

Hi:


I've got a customer with a Mid 2010 Mac Mini and he was having problems with it. I ran Scannerz on it to analyze it because I suspected either the logic board or the drive, and it's the drive. He has a 1TB 2.5" in it, and I suggested that we pull the optical from it and create a Fusion drive for him. He said "No" because he uses the optical too much and doesn't want to deal with any external peripherals except his backup drive. I suggested SSDs but for the types of storage needs he has they're too expensive. Finally I came across this Western Digital hybrid that has a 120GB SSD coupled with a 1TB hard drive:


http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1190#Tab3


Anyone out there use one of these things yet? Are they reliable? How do they compare with an SSD standalone (that question is more for my own curiosity)? With a 120GB SSD on it I would think it would behave for the most part almost like an SSD most of the time. Another option is one of the newer Hitachi 1TB 7200RPM drives since they're supposed to be a lot faster than the older style drives, and it would certainly be a lot cheaper, but in spite of their speed increases compared to older drives, they still don't come close to an SSD.


All opinions are welcome,


Thanks.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Sep 4, 2015 1:08 AM

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Nov 5, 2015 10:58 AM in response to Fred1956

No, you're not stupid. First the drives HGST is selling with Helium in them are "enterprise class", meaning they're supposed to be put into servers where heat can be a problem, and in addition the drives are on the order of terabytes. Heat is one of the leading killers of drives working in environments like that and helium (apparently) causes them to run much cooler and consume less power.


A few years from now it might be a viable option but right now an SSD of that size, especially if ordered and installed in bulk, would be too costly.


For the cost, however, I would think a pair of drives set up in a mirroring configuration without going the helium route would be more cost effective. Some drives are so unbelievably cheap right now you can by several for the price of just one helium drive.


I think I'll float off now….

Nov 13, 2015 11:21 AM in response to ZV137

The only benefit of that WD setup is that it's all in one container. It would be cheaper to buy an SSD and an HDD separately, you would have better control over the system, and you wouldn't need some of the weird unlocking software that WD requires you to use. For those that don't remember, when Mavericks was first released some of WD's proprietary software was deleting files from backups, and if I recall correctly, in some cases deleting the entire contents of the drive - it was backup software by the way.

Nov 13, 2015 2:20 PM in response to ZV137

A factor with helium, is that most containers will leak eventually. Depending

on technological limitation, cost factors, and expected life, moving parts may

outlast the helium gas before it leaks out. If it were liquid, it'd run super cool.


http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/11/08/helium-hard-drive-using-i mmersion-cooling/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=helium-filled+leakproof+hard+disk+drives&t=ffsb


For the value vs cost, one may need to see results of advanced unbiased testing. 😐

Jan 4, 2016 11:20 AM in response to CaptH

With respect to the original post and the mention of the WD dual hard drive, I think it's been dropped from their line up. Clicking on the supplied link in the original post now just takes you to the main WD page, and searching through their site the only thing I could that came close were WD "blue" SSHDs, and most of them had, in my opinion, puny amounts of flash memory. It's too bad because the idea sounded interesting.

Jan 6, 2016 11:49 AM in response to MrWilliams201

The price for that WD setup was ridiculous. You could buy a 256GB SSD and a large HD and still have 50 bucks left over. Couple that with the fact that it needs to be unlocked by WD software to use it and the possibility of system incompatibility with changing OS versions and you have a nightmare waiting to happen. The originals I saw were much lower in price probably because WD was trying to get rid of them. The "regular" price was apparently in excess of $200.

Mar 16, 2016 10:25 AM in response to CaptH

I read somewhere, I think on this site, that SanDisk was bought by Western Digital. Here's more info if interested:


http://www.siliconbeat.com/2016/03/15/shareholders-ok-western-digital-sandisk-me rger/


That said, maybe the combination of decent sized SSDs and large HDDs in some type of super hybrid may not be that far off in the future. It would kind of put a damper on Fusion drives, I would think.

Mar 20, 2016 12:25 PM in response to MrWilliams201

MrWilliams201 wrote:


I read somewhere, I think on this site, that SanDisk was bought by Western Digital. Here's more info if interested:


http://www.siliconbeat.com/2016/03/15/shareholders-ok-western-digital-sandisk-me rger/


That said, maybe the combination of decent sized SSDs and large HDDs in some type of super hybrid may not be that far off in the future. It would kind of put a damper on Fusion drives, I would think.


I doubt that. If WD did something like making some dual drive it would mean Apple would be buying from them unless others started doing the same thing. Right now they're free to choose any brand for any component they want.

May 16, 2016 11:12 AM in response to MrWilliams201

If you're talking about the WD "dual drive" with an SSD and an HDD in one package, WD killed it. I know a few months ago they still had it on their site but it's completely gone now. Right now I can get a 3TB Toshiba HDD for about $40(US) and a 240GB SSD for about $60(US). That thing WD was making was selling for about $180(US) if I recall correctly.

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