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Using Apple Keyboard on Windows PC

Greetings everyone. Recently I want to buy a new keyboard, since I like the thinness of membrane keyboard, and I pretty much dislike the typing sound of keyboard, so I want to buy Apple keyboard with Numberic Keypad (MB110LL / B).


Hmm... Because I like the style of this keyboard, it's thin, aluminium body, white in color, matches all the factors I want. But as I don't have a Mac, I am using a normal self-build Windows PC. So I have some questions about using Appe keyboard in Windows PC.


1. Do you recommend using an Apple keyboard in Windows PC? Any conflicts with Windows PC?


2. How to Print Screen using this keyboard? It's Fn+11 in Wireless version but I don't know how in this numeric keypad version...


3. Windwos button = Command, Alt = Option is that correct? If so that means I will have to change the habit of pressing buttons when inputing things like Alt + Tab and Win + R(Run) in Windows PC?


4. What is the function of the buttons next to F12? F13 - F16 I mean, above numeric keypad, I heard I need to install extra drivers to get it works, but actually I don;t think I need those buttons...


I haven't used Apple product before, since Apple is a famous company I think the stuffs are trustworthy, I have tried to find other keyboards but even the packaging is not looking good in the computer shops in my country... Plus it contains all the factors I want. So that's why I want to buy an Apply keyboard.


Do you guys recommend using it? Any important thing I need to notice? Or I better switch back to normal keyboards? Please post your suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Posted on Sep 14, 2015 6:36 PM

15 replies

Sep 14, 2015 6:41 PM in response to Community User



Do you guys recommend using it? Any important thing I need to notice? Or I better switch back to normal keyboards? Please post your suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Yes it will work fine, its just a USB keyboard. Any PC USB keyboard will work on a Mac too. Below is a very basic keyboard map showing what you will need to know:


WindowsMacintosh
CONTROLCOMMAND (for most shortcuts) or CONTROL
ALTOPTION
Windows/StartCOMMAND/Apple
BACKSPACEDELETE
DELETEDEL
SHIFTSHIFT
ENTERRETURN


By the way, have you considered getting a Mac. They're much easier to use than PCs, are generally more reliable and you won' have to spend time maintaining the thing either.

Sep 14, 2015 7:15 PM in response to Community User

I agree with rkaufmann87. I've used Macs & PCs in my personal life and business life since my 1st Mac in Feb of '85. I kinda needed my head examined for buying that one as you couldn't do much with it but it got me started and a business award from GE with a drawing I did in MacPaint that would have been very hard to do on a PC of that time. I currently own a mid-2010 iMac and my company has issued me a series of Dell laptops in recent years. Interestingly, I have the i-Mac fitted with the same keyboard you are considering (although I've never tried using it on my current Dell. Before the i-Mac I owned a Dell desktop machine for about 4 years. The HD in it died about 5 days after buying the Mac (perfect timing ! ). The optical drive died well before that but fortunately I had one in the Dell laptop so I never fixed. The Dell desktop was really showing it's age in terms of the cabinet yellowing and generally looking dated and looking dingy. The i-Mac looks and runs like new, although the lettering on some of the keys are starting to show some wear. I did recently increase the ram from 4 GB to 12 GB thinking it help with the new OS versions (I think it did, but some of the recent OS updates are better too). The Mac has a smaller foot print, is quieter and virtually never crashes. Both the Dell desktop and the laptop had frequent crashes and bugginess. The laptop still does (but some of that may be due to our VPN and paranoid security software). Speaking of that, on the Mac I use no virus protection, no disk cleaners, nothing but the Apple OS X and it runs fine.

Sep 14, 2015 7:52 PM in response to Community User

Hygma wrote:


Thanks for the reply. So that means I really need to get used to the reversed "Alt / Windows" key conbination right...? Since Command is Windows key next to space bar and Option is Alt at the right of Ctrl key...


And is F13 equal to Print Screen button on WIndows keyboard? Any extra drivers or stuffs need to install to get it work? And is Fn key in Apple keyboard equal to Insert in Windows key?


I may consider getting a Mac but i don;t have that money yet... And how is it more reliable and easier to use? Since I think I may install Windows on it thought I get a Mac.

Yes, you just have to get used to those minor differences. Nothing need to make it work, just plug it in and use it. The FN key is defined in Wikipedia as:


Fn key. For operating system or programmable keys, see Function key. Fn, short for function, is a modifier key on many keyboards, especially on laptops, used in a compact layout to combine keys which are usually kept separate.


A Mac is more reliable for many reasons, first there are zero viruses for them therefore antivirus software is never necessary. They are also more reliable because Apple's build quality is much higher then than just about any PC found. There was an old Apple ad some years ago, that said, "They just work." There was truth to that, you just turn it on and it works for years and years. Also, OS X is the most sophisticated OS out there, it is based on UNIX which is rock solid. When you can, make it down to an Apple Store and look at a Retina iMac and I can almost guarantee you will want one and be figuring out how to get the money.

Sep 23, 2015 9:22 AM in response to Community User

Sorry for the delay. I'm saddled with this albatross, my job. I travel a lot and by the time I heard back that you still wanted me to proceed with the key board trial I was out of town again. In any event, I'm back and I've taken a quick look at some things on the Dell. We probably need to agree on something to try. I am not a power user when it comes to the MS commands. Although I use the computer every day it is only for mundane things like MS Word, Excel, PPoint, Lotus Notes, etc. I rarely find need to use an Fn key or F1, etc. On my Dell docking station I have an extended keyboard attached (with a numeric keypad). In fact it is pretty similar in layout to the Apple keyboard. However, on the Dell keyboard there is no Fn key, so I won't be able to test the Fn function on it to confirm function. It does have F1 thru F12, PrtScn/SysRq, etc. Another however, when I hit print screen on the Dell keyboard nothing happens so I expect I would get the same response with the Apple keyboard. There is an Fn key on the laptop itself. So bottom line is... If you can tell me some actions to do in the above software and the expected response, I will test them with both the Dell keyboard to confirm function and the Apple keyboard to see if it yields the same response.

Oct 29, 2015 8:55 AM in response to Community User

Going to jump in here, a month behind, so I'm sorry about that. Personally, I use Apple keyboards on all systems I am able to plug them into, Macs, Windows and Sun with USB. On Windows and Solaris, the mappings are a little funny. However, the extended Apple keyboard has all the same location keys as a standard 101 key PC keyboard. Without the Apple driver, the F14 key is your print screen key, F15 scroll lock, Help is Insert. Some keys do not work at all, F13, Volume, Eject and the = key on the keypad. The standard 101 key driver doesn't have mappings for these so you would need to use another program to map them for you. If you are using the "mini" Apple keyboard as I call it, without the "middle" section keys where delete is, then you have to find a Mac using friend to get them to open the Boot Camp disk image and pull the Apple keyboard driver for you. On the Mac keyboard "delete" is where the backspace key is, and in Apple parlance is the "backwards delete" key. The "delete" key, then, is the "forwards delete" key. The Apple driver sets the backwards delete to function as forwards delete when you hold down CTRL and ALT so that you can give the login command on a windows computer with the mini keyboard.

Sep 14, 2015 6:50 PM in response to rkaufmann87

Thanks for the reply. So that means I really need to get used to the reversed "Alt / Windows" key conbination right...? Since Command is Windows key next to space bar and Option is Alt at the right of Ctrl key...


And is F13 equal to Print Screen button on WIndows keyboard? Any extra drivers or stuffs need to install to get it work? And is Fn key in Apple keyboard equal to Insert in Windows key?


I may consider getting a Mac but i don;t have that money yet... And how is it more reliable and easier to use? Since I think I may install Windows on it thought I get a Mac.

Sep 14, 2015 8:56 PM in response to rkaufmann87

Then F13 means PrintScreen on Win keyboard? Can you really print screen? Don't want to discover that it has no function after buying it...


Insert is above the Delete key, and not for laptop computers in Wiki's saying...Although I won't use Insert key but don't want to see it not functioning...


Or it's better to install keybpard mapping software? But what if it is uninstalled or stopped, then the custom key mapping will disappear?

Sep 15, 2015 6:37 PM in response to pokey b

I would be more than grateful if you can help me out like this, thank you very much!


Does extended keyboard means MB110LL/B keyboard with numeric keypad?

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MB110F/B/apple-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad -french


If so then I will wait until your come back, this is not a problem!


I think the keys that I concerned are those who marked differently from Windows keyboard.


Like,


- Print Screen = F13? (Right side of Eject key)


- fn = Insert?


- delete(arrow)(above 4 directions arrow keys) = Delete?


- F14 and F15 have what function?


- Do F1 - F12 work as same as normal keyboard?


- Command and Alt buttons really are reversed Windows / Alt buttons on normal keyboard?


- "Clear" key above numeric keypad = NumLock in PC?


- The 4 F-keys above numeric keypad are for...?


I think that's for now. Let's discuss this when you are back.

Using Apple Keyboard on Windows PC

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