JosephWit

Q: Can't delete iCloud backup, storage full

After upgrading my iPhone 6 Plus to IOS 9, my iCloud storage shows 5GB of my 25GB available. It shows an iPad Air (not yet updated to iOS9) backup of  516MB, and an iPhone backup of 0 KB, which I cannot delete (This backup cannot be deleted at this time). Documents and Data only 6.9MB, but only 5 GB available, and not enough room to continue to back up the iPhone. The 19GB iPhone backup appears to have been corrupted and cannot be deleted or updated by the phone. Looks like lots of folks are having similar issues. Any solutions?


Apple has been spending lots of energy creating new, exciting products but has been lax on supporting the back end, which is just as important. iCloud for Windows still not updated for Windows 10, and iTunes has issues with Windows 10, not resolved in iTunes 12.3. Come on, Apple!

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 9

Posted on Sep 19, 2015 11:49 AM

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  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Sep 19, 2015 11:57 AM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 11:57 AM in response to JosephWit

    Try turning back up off and on again on the phone.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 12:13 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 19, 2015 12:13 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    Turning back up off on the iPhone goes with deleting the backup - that is what doesn't work.

     

    If I switch in iTunes from "backup to iCloud" to "back up to this computer", and then back to iCloud, it still shows the phantom 19GB of space occupied. If I click "back up now", it goes through the process, but still shows last iCloud backup is from 9/16, before the iOS 9 upgrade - it does not update.o

     

    Looks like the folder directory on Apple's server is corrupted. Last backup shows 0k, but is taking up 19GB, and it can't be deleted or updated.

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Sep 19, 2015 12:29 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 12:29 PM in response to JosephWit

    What actually happens when you turn back up off.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 1:04 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:04 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    on the phone: Settings- General- Storage & iCloud Usage, or Settings- iCloud- Storage- Manage Storage (either one) shows Backups: Joe's iPhone (ThisiPhone) 0KB. Click on the backup, it shows Latest Backup- Never (since I tried to delete it- before it showed 9/16 which was the last backup before iOS 9 upgrade), backup size 0 bytes. Option to DELETE BACKUP brings up "Do you want to TURN OFF BACKUP and delete all backup data for this iPhone from iCloud?" Clicking "Turn Off and Delete" shows "deleting....."and it stops. But the iPhone backup 0KB is still listed, and there are still only 5GB of space available - the 0KB backup is taking up its usual 19GB, and has NOT been deleted. The option to delete is gone until I restart the phone.

     

    There is no other way on  the iPhone to turn off iCloud backup, is there?

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Sep 19, 2015 1:26 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:26 PM in response to JosephWit

    I'm not sure if it will produce a different result but what about settings > iCloud > Backup > Backup > Off.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    I was looking for that setting. Turned backup off, restarted the phone. iPhone backup no longer listed under "manage storage", but still only 5GB available - the phantom backup up is still taking up room in the directory. Turned it back on, said "backup now", starts to back up, then popup "cannot be backed up because there is not enough iCloud storage available. Apple server file allocation table is corrupted...

  • by milypan,

    milypan milypan Sep 19, 2015 1:52 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:52 PM in response to JosephWit

    I also have a bunch of "phantom space" in my backup set, though in my case it's only about 3 GB. It's still very frustrating though, because I can see on iCloud.com that 9.5 GB are devoted to backups, but on any of my devices it only lists 6.9 GB of backups (i.e., it's impossible to delete more than 6.9 GB). I'd be perfectly willing to nuke all the backups and start fresh in order to reclaim the space, but they don't even give us that option.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 1:57 PM in response to milypan
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:57 PM in response to milypan

    I know; not a good situation. I'm getting a new iPhone 6S Plus next week. What do I restore it from? Obviously not an iCloud backup unless Apple fixes this quickly. iTunes 12.3 still has issues with Windows 10, though backup to computer SEEMS to work... scary though.

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Sep 19, 2015 1:58 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 1:58 PM in response to JosephWit

    That's close to what happened for me except that the back up then proceeded and completed, but then again I had oodles of room. I wonder if for the sake of getting the first backup to complete, if turning everything that's backed up off (or most of it) so it's only a small back up will do it.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 2:01 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 19, 2015 2:01 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    Could try I guess; but getting a small backup to fit in my remaining 5GB available space (my iPad on iOS 8.4.1 is still backing up successfully every night) won't solve the problem when I need more than 5GB, will it?

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Sep 19, 2015 2:21 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 2:21 PM in response to JosephWit

    Not on the face of it I guess, but I was wondering if everything wouldn't normalise after you manage to complete your first back up post update, that's what seemed to happene for me.

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 2:32 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 19, 2015 2:32 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    Where can I turn off items to back up? I only see options to turn iCloud back up on, not to configure it down from 19GB content to less than 5GB.

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 19, 2015 2:38 PM in response to JosephWit
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    Sep 19, 2015 2:38 PM in response to JosephWit

    If you go to Settings>iCloud>Storage>Manage Storage> and click on the device in question, you will then see a list of items below the backup info that are turned on (or off). What is turned on is what is backing up. What is turned off is not included in any backups that are being made.

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by JosephWit,

    JosephWit JosephWit Sep 19, 2015 3:52 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 19, 2015 3:52 PM in response to gail from maine

    well... there is clearly a directory corruption somewhere at their end - I would rather Apple fix it than get too extreme. I don't want to jeopardize my contacts and calendars... I have tried deleting the backup from iPhone, OSX and Windows - its not at my end, and it looks like a file table error.

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