Secure Empty Trash missing on El Capitan

As Apple serves the consumer market, they only need to focus on the first and second scenarios

http://www.apple.com/business/mac/

http://fortune.com/2015/09/29/tim-cook-apple-enterprise/

http://essentialapple.com/wwdc-2014-apples-going-after-enterprise/

Enterprise security comprises a coordination of products, services, and policies, not a simple solution from a computer vendor. Note how Apple partnered with IBM to provide business services that fall well outside of their wheelhouse.

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Inadequate. Many of us have Macs with hard disks. My Mac Pro has four. And the argument about files needing to be encrypted from creation is only partially correct. There might be a file that comes from another source, such as incoming email, that should be handled as sensitive but you don't know until you look at it. Also, the secure erase of free space is also missing under El Capitan.

√HT205267 - About Security in OS X El Capitan 10.11 ; Look for the 'Finder' Section. It shows that the feature has been removed for security reasons. I came across this while reviewing the security updates for El Capitan.

midiman1000 wrote:

Option or command click on the trash and right click on the files you want to delete inside the trash, click on delete immeiately.

That does it!

Thank you so much!

That just removes the file from the trash. Nothing more.

johnrobro wrote:

√HT205267 - About Security in OS X El Capitan 10.11 ; Look for the 'Finder' Section. It shows that the feature has been removed for security reasons. I came across this while reviewing the security updates for El Capitan.

That doesn't explain the reasoning for removing the option from hard drive equipped Macs.

Oddly enough, secure empty trash is still mentioned in this article (definitely written for el Capitan):

OS X El Capitan: Delete files and folders

I've called it to Apple's attention - I can't test as my only el Capitan machine is my MBP which has an SSD (and of course, it is not available there).

My Mac Pro has four

Me too, 2 SSD, and 2 HDD (8TB each).

Hello, the page no longer exists.

Sorry, I hadn't seen the additional http.

Indeed. The only way now too solve this is by safely deleting via terminal. 'It just works'

cd ~/.Trash && rm -rf *

So is the Link you provided goes nowhere

Interestingly enough, a genius at the Apple store told me that if you go to the menu bar, select finder>hold option and then select the option shift command delete function, this will securely erase the trash with external drives running on hard disks. This is unfortunately not true. I purposefully put folders with files that I didn't need from my external hard drive in the trash, Just to try this out. The only thing which happened is the same exact thing that happens when you empty the trash normally. You hear the trash sound, and there's nothing left in the trash bin. Previously, when you securely empty trash you would see a dialog box, and it would show you that it was actually writing over that space on said hard drive. That is no longer the case. My question then is, why bother having that option in the first place unless it is an acknowledged bug?

Also, and this might seem like a stupid comment, but... How difficult would it really be in order to have separate trash bins for separate volumes? I can't imagine it would be that difficult.

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Sure, but Secure Empty Trash was convenient for deleting files the Finder kept telling you were in use, even when they were not.

The key combination of Option+Command+Delete will do the same thing in El Capitan.