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External hdd won't eject properly since El Capitan

27" iMac, 13 2, fusion drive, OS X 10.11 My LaCie back up drive's icon turns green after the first back up is complete but I can't eject it, except by forced eject. If I force eject it, then turn it back on, it will perform another back up but stay orange when it is done. Any one else have this problem?


I normally do 1 back up a day, then eject the disk and turn off the drive instead of leaving everything on at night. Any help at all would be appreciated as I am a creature of habit and resist change.


Thanks in advance: Tom

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Yosemite (10.10.1), Fusion Drive

Posted on Oct 1, 2015 10:15 AM

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Sep 11, 2017 8:47 PM in response to EVISCERATOR

Strangely enough, i also have a LaCie drive, but dont use it to back up, i use it as my iTunes Media Folder (4 TB). Sometimes i notice it starts up for no reason even when iTunes is off, and i notice my Mac seems slower, so i eject the drive. However, after ejecting, the drive restarts itself and tries to reinvade my work environment. I then just pull the plug on it in anger. I am not sure if there is perhaps a virus on it trying to upload stuff to the internet or what, but doubt it, as have read many similar complaints from LaCie owners. I used to think LaCie were good, but after reading a lot, it seems they have a slightly different way of working to other drives, and a lot of people have this or similar problems.

Try changing your brand of hard drive. I have two wd my passport drives and a samsung drive which all are fine and do not produce this problem. Recommend doing away with LaCie, and doing away with the belief that they are good products.

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Oct 2, 2015 7:01 AM in response to EVISCERATOR

Hi,


I have the same problem with all External Disk USB and sometime with TimeCapsule Disk.


Problem seen to be Spotlight, i must stop Spotlight with this command before eject:

sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

And restart Spotlight after because i use it often:

sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist


Problem with GM and Final El Captain, before i don't know.


I signal it to Apple with Feedback Assistant because this bug corrupt 2 of my Time Machine on USB External Disk.


Maybe Apple correct... Maybe not...

Oct 9, 2015 4:44 AM in response to EVISCERATOR

Hello,


sorry, i'm not intending to be offensive at all,

But i don't agree that restarting the Mac is properly qualified as a solution.

Adding it to "Privacy" could be.


Still: actually both is a typical Mac user behaviour: workarounding shortcomings that are not properly addressed by APPLE across consecutive releases of OSX and accepting this as a solution.


The proper solution must be that APPLE eventually features an option to configuring Spotlight in order to programmatically exclude network shares or removable media from indexing. And the user's expectations must be that needs for profound solutions are valid and worth while being dealt with properly.


Having to add each new share and drive to connect to Spotlight's "Privacy" is cumbersome and does not fit well the overall elegant and swift handling OSX is providing in general. Neither is it manageable...


And i personally still find the core question unanswered: what changed in El Capitan that made all of this necessary at all?

I am asking because i'll have to roll out a bigger deployment of OSX clients soon, with network accounts working on network shares and see a lot of trouble ahead...

Best

Oct 9, 2015 12:26 PM in response to Brave Brands

Not good here either. Everything I have tried ( moving Ext. HDD to privacy in spotlight, rebooting, etc.) were only temp fixes. I think it may be related to spotlight, but don't know for sure. For now, I will make 1 backup per week on 1 Ext HDD, (formatting it before hand even tho I know this shortens it"s life), and use my other ext. HDD for time machine backup's. Big pain in the behind and requires 2 ext. HDD to be safe!

Sure hope apple fixes this soon. Please start a new post for your problem as I marked this one solved prematurely.

Tom

Oct 10, 2015 12:36 AM in response to EVISCERATOR

The problem may not be with Apple/El Capitan - it could be with LaCie Desktop Manager. The LaCie website doesn't list Desktop Manager in its compatible software list. When I boot, LaCie Desktop Manager opens automatically, but only lists my older 500GB Rugged HDD and not my newer 1TB SSD device which was working perfectly as my iTunes library drive until El Capitan. I can still access my iTunes library, however when I'm downloading tv shows, after a while I get an error message saying the drive could not be found. I think what is happening is that the drive is dismounting when my iMac goes to sleep. One notable difference between the two drives is that my 1TB drive is connected via a USB3 cable into a USB port. The other drive is connected with a Firewire cable into a Thunderbolt port via an adapter. The one connected by the USB3 cable is the problem drive.



http://knowledge.lacie.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/007619en

"At the launch of Mac OS 10.11, LaCie is updating certain of our applications"

Oct 10, 2015 10:28 AM in response to mdb76

Hello,


i also checked first with my antivirus software, which would be a typical suspect. I even uninstalled it to make double sure.

When then checking the accessing processes with lsof, it turns out mdworker to be the only active on the respective mount.

Turning off Spotlight then reliably and reproducibly stops the problem.

My guess is it might be related as a side effect to how they improved copying files to removable media, which per se is a very nice and important feature for sure. Really just speculating...

So my vote still is for Spotlight...

Best

External hdd won't eject properly since El Capitan

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