ios 9 automatic download making me furious

mec_x wrote:

you aren't helpful meg. some of us are subscribed to this thread in case someone comes up with a solution but instead are getting constant spam on how we should accept whatever apple decides or that we have no right to complain.

i think your points have been heard, if you don't have any other solutions to provide please kindly leave the thread.

From here, there is no solution. Wait if you wish. we have all said our peace, but this is not the place to change things. We discuss things.

mec_x wrote:

you aren't helpful meg. some of us are subscribed to this thread in case someone comes up with a solution but instead are getting constant spam on how we should accept whatever apple decides or that we have no right to complain.

This is a technical support forum. Complaining, beyond a certain point, is actually not permitted. I think you also don't understand the meaning of "spam". It doesn't mean "anything I disagree with or don't like". My posts are about the subject and have not been judged inappropriate according to the Terms of Use.

If you do not find my posts helpful, you are certainly not required to read them. I promise not to be offended. 😉

A number of work-a-rounds have been proposed.

The one that works in all scenarios is to fill up the device with data and apps until only a little less than one gig is left. Apple will not be able to force a download on you. Before you complain, it's a work-a-round. It does have some pain.

R

Gee let's not exaggerate. Nobody is raging or throwing a hissy fit. People overanalyzing w/their philosophical explanation is pretty **** hilarious though. Let's stay on topic.

rccharles wrote:

A number of work-a-rounds have been proposed.

The one that works in all scenarios is to fill up the device with data and apps until only a little less than one gig is left. Apple will not be able to force a download on you. Before you complain, it's a work-a-round. It does have some pain.

R

And it won't work. The last update was only 50 MB.

You can rage against Apple ...

Who told you I am against, in fact I am strongly in favour . I am passionate about what apple used to represent. I am using only apple products, I consider those tools are extension of my fingers and I have convinced so many people in favour of apple tools, that apple already should consider paying me percentage really 😉 as in any apple store or reseller I visited no one I saw knew more then me about apple.That is exactly the reason why for me it touches emotions far beyond the level usually consumer device should be permitted to as you put it. This is not going to change. This is exactly why I am furious when I see some unwise poor performance, and do not convince me please that this and apple are the same thing. I need logical basis if i convince people, I cannot say things that aren't logical. I am happy with some features and unhappy with the the other and I do live with that or developing my own software to improve it, but there are things simply unacceptable. Now imagine that exactly such passionate person is strongly unhappy with something so much? Does it means anything to you? I am passionate and this is exactly why I state this is simply a buggy behaviour and for me it isn't even any other then technical question here, because it is clear for me that once user choice is there, it is simply the problem to technically implement and respect his choice. Downloading updates again and again or pop up dialog windows every day isn't serving that goal.

... Sort of like, I love my cat but the fact that she behaves the way cats always have really annoys me. Why can't she behave like a dog?...

This isn't a cat, it's hand maid you know, but even with this example I want exactly the opposite I actually do not want it to become a dog, something it wasn't. I accept that cat develops into a better cat, more advanced, more capable and mature, but it does annoys me enormously when I notice that cat is barking. And it annoys me even more, when someone says " cats are barking, they always have It's normal, take it or leave. it" while I know for a fact they didn't !

It's fine that no one is working for apple, but at least do not say buy something else, No, I wish these products to work the best as my working, entertaining, creative and intellectual life is already concentrated around apple products, I do not wish it to be abused, , and btw if me or people like me will leave, think who stays ...

Now another addition to the technical problem is such: When let's say ipad connected to hotspot of let's say iphone, for ipad it is a perfect wifi connection for downloading update and data plan is going to say bye bye to the happy owner. Do you have any technical solution to that?

A number of work-a-rounds have been proposed.

The one that works in all scenarios is to fill up the device with data

Are you seriously? I need internet connection for maps and communications and I do need a lot of space for a lot of video recording of lessons and musical sessions. How is that can be nearly a solution or workaround to fill all the space on device? How I will record 4gb video then? On the travel the 3G connection sometimes is the only option, and I need to know exactly when the huge download is going to happen or at least once it downloaded and I said not to update ,it should not do the downloading again and of course I do not need reminders to update that simply disturbing to fast actions required on the go. You get dialog when you need to look at map while you speak with someone or something else needs to be done fast. It's simply annoying like ****. I need to be once notified and that's enough I'll do it manually when there is a proper moment. If anything goes wrong with the update on the go when traveling it could cost a lot of money when some app will not work or work differently after update, so the moment needs to be chosen when there is time for dealing with those possible problems. I turned off auto update for apps and the same I need for iOS. It's not harming anyone else, because if user went as far as to look for that option to turn off, for sure such user will check for updates. I do not see the logic behind not having such an option. Every time I argued about something in the past ended up with apple was eventually doing it, because it is really obvious. And I also heard all of this "ride the horse in the sea" and "take it or leave it " bla bla bla It's not the question of what should be there, it's only technical question how to get it as soon as possible.

occaocco wrote:

You can rage against Apple ...

Who told you I am against, in fact I am strongly in favour . I am passionate about what apple used to represent. I am using only apple products, I consider those tools are extension of my fingers and I have convinced so many people in favour of apple tools, that apple already should consider paying me percentage really 😉 as in any apple store or reseller I visited no one I saw knew more then me about apple.That is exactly the reason why for me it touches emotions far beyond the level usually consumer device should be permitted to as you put it.

I guess such near religious adulation says something about the success of Apple's marketing.

iPhones are nice tools. But that's all they are.

Apple has a very long history of deciding on what they consider the best way to do things then continuing to do them that way, regardless of criticism, until people come around. However, sometimes they change their minds. Submit your feedback here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

I guess such near religious adulation says something about the success of Apple's marketing.

Dear, you guess wrongly, you really may wish to consider to expect from people you communicate a bit more before picturing me as "a stupid fun boy" and attaching me behaviour that could be explained in terms of marketing success. Non of the marketing had succeed to convince me in anything so far. If you read carefully I wrote that I am passionate about the ideas apple used to represent, ideas .. not the apple itself nor the product itself. I hope you can distinguish and see the huge difference here.

iPhones are nice tools. But that's all they are.

For you, probably yes, for me - no . I perceive an object as the philosophy it represents just like the art representing certain emotion or mindset. When I touch the object I perceive the vision behind it, thus if I perceive something I do not like it's a big problem and it is this area in which apple managed to make things "right" many times or at least they were closer then the others. I've got apple notebook by first listing to myself what notebook should have and only then, later finding that apple have managed to put 'v' nearly to all items of the list. They came closest, that's why I wish those products to work, simply because others don't even come close and I cannot make notebooks and tablets for myself so far you know ...

Apple has a very long history of deciding on what they consider the best way...

Not exactly, more likely the history of getting it "right" based on perception I've mentioned. I have a strong feeling about this getting it "right" and in most cases in the past I was understanding and agreeing with what apple did regardless the criticism and thing's i didn't understand apple was eventually canceling or changing the way I predicted by the way. But as I've mentioned before, I am not working for apple, I am looking for technical solution for my problem, and I would be more then happy if you can anyhow help me with the problem of endless update, I prefer it technically, like really technically, not by insulting me, not by advising me to live with the problem and not by taking me into philosophical off topic discussions,
What I really need is a technical solution. As I've mentioned before, I am not working for apple, I am trying to solve my problem Let workers of apple to fulfil those feedback forms, they have enough of material for that simply by reading this thread. I just want a a technical solution, so please .. if you have one ... share it!

There is not technical solution. It is unlikely to change. You have sent your feedback so you have done all you can do, there is no purpose in posting on the topic further.

occaocco wrote:

I guess such near religious adulation says something about the success of Apple's marketing.

Dear, you guess wrongly, you really may wish to consider to expect from people you communicate a bit more before picturing me as "a stupid fun boy" and attaching me behaviour that could be explained in terms of marketing success.

I never thought of you or called you "a stupid fan boy". Please do not attribute things to me that I did not say.

I think this will do the trick, But I wonder why they keep moving the ability to stop this auto iOS download feature! Does it still exist in iTunes? I'm sure there was an option in the previous iOS versions to NOT even check for iOS updates! and when I am informed a newer iOS is available it will not download/ install unless i agree to enable checking auto updates in the future!

Thanks for your post

Fredy

Step 1: Right away, you should know what to choose. Of course, tap on the Remind Me Later

Step 2: Go to Settings > General > Storage and iCloud Usage > Manage Storage

Step 3: Find the software update and delete it from there

What you just did is basically removed the iOS 9.3 firmware that Apple automatically download onto your iOS device. Once you delete that file, Apple won’t do it again without asking for your permission.

Some other people also suggested that we can use certificates, Software Update Killer, or block http://mesu.apple.com/ from your router to prevent any updates from Apple.

Not my experience - even after deleting the update had re-appeared... just because I was so remiss to actually leave my device connected to power and wifi at the same time. (The fact that the update has also actually downloaded via mobile data is another issue!)

Even if deleting the update was a solution, it's only a short term one until the next update is released... and I don't think Apple could with a straight face maintain that they got 9.3 right.

Blocking access to Aopple servers via router isn't really a workable solution either as it affects all devices....I'm quite happy for updates to screw up some devices, but there are some devices that I just need to work without issue, hence the reason I choose to keep them on a known, good s/w version, until such time that I make a decision that updating is benefical.

Keeping the device memory 'maxed' out is no longer a really workable workaround either, as most recent updates have become so small they manage to sneek on.

It would be so much simpler if there was a choice - even "ask me again in 30 days"

Meanwhile, the only real solution to prevent unwanted update downloads is to disconnect the device from network whilst charging.

> Blocking access to Aopple servers via router isn't really a workable solution either as it affects all devices....

You can block specific iOS device by its MAC address. I'm blocking my own devices only. Anyone who uses my home WiFi can update their devices without any problem. This feature is router dependent but if my 10 years old router can do it, I'm sure new routers offer the same or better features.

> Keeping the device memory 'maxed' out is no longer a really workable workaround either, as most recent updates have become so small they manage to sneek on.

That is the worst solution. Using a device with minimal (a few MBs) free space is just ridiculous.

> Meanwhile, the only real solution to prevent unwanted update downloads is to disconnect the device from network whilst charging.

but sometimes we forget to do turn off WiFi. I was watching Netflix and my battery drops to 10% so I plugged it in without thinking that iOS will auto download. The real workaround is whatever you feel comfortable with... that is: block access to Apple update server, stuff up your device storage until it pukes or turn off WiFi while charging. I choose the blocking method.