Folders on top in El Capitan

Since my last post was removed, I will add a new one along the lines of this subject.

There is a solution to this very much needed feature using third party apps but it means users jeopardising El Capitan's security.

I used xtrafinder, a free solution, with Yosemite but this is not working anymore, not without modifying/partly-disabling SIP as other users mentioned already.

As an apple systems lover, and advisor on technology purchases for schools in my area, I suggest that users should not disable OSX security which leaves only one other option.

Regards,

George

Personally I liked your deleted response 🙂

How can folders on top NOT be considered a default option? It boggles the mind. My mind is boggled.

heligo9 wrote:

Personally I liked your deleted response 🙂

How can folders on top NOT be considered a default option? It boggles the mind. My mind is boggled.

Why would it be a default? In my 30 years of using a Mac, I've never needed that "feature."

considering the relevant discussions around the internet you are the exception. also you probably don't do a lot of file management either. still you are entitled to your opinion which hopefully is not insulting our intelligence.

Email was sent. Thanks for the link.

G-iPad wrote:

considering the relevant discussions around the internet you are the exception. also you probably don't do a lot of file management either. still you are entitled to your opinion which hopefully is not insulting our intelligence.

Why would my need to spend the day moving files around in the Finder necessitate having all the folders "on top?"

Even if I needed them in one place, sort by Kind does that.

this will probably be a long argument so I think we should stop analysing it between us. Also since this thread is obviously of no interest to you maybe you should not post here any more unless you have something constructive to add. my next comment would be about your post count but I wont get into that either. finally if sort by kind did what we discuss here, we wouldnt be discussing it.

again thank you for your input, even if irrelevant.

G-iPad wrote:

this will probably be a long argument so I think we should stop analysing it between us. Also since this thread is obviously of no interest to you maybe you should not post here any more unless you have something constructive to add. my next comment would be about your post count but I wont get into that either. finally if sort by kind did what we discuss here, we wouldnt be discussing it.

again thank you for your input, even if irrelevant.

I guess you're always right and have no desire to explain the shortcomings so that someone else can understand.

I do more "file management" on Windows and spend half my time scrolling down the file list to where the folder should be alphabetically, only to have to go back to the top of the heap and start over.

as I said this will end up a quarrel, and thats because it is not me who is not explaining the purpose of this thread, it is you who came here with his "30 years of experience" to tell us that our issue is not important because =you= dont need this function.

Id like to ask you, politely, not to continue this debate. From my part, I wont respond to any more of your comments. This is ruining the thread and the aesthetics of the forum users.

I like you 🙂

Folders on top makes logical sense. You navigate folders to get to their contents. With folders on top, if you have a path that is a couple of folders deep, you can quickly drill down to that location. Without folders on top you are using the scroll bar to find each folder before you can drill down.

This design is perfectly logical which is why it's adopted on other operating systems.

Folders on top makes logical sense

It's one logic but not all. So does alpha-numeric sorting of all the items. That too makes logical sense.

I think really this is a perfect example of how Apple make a basic and useful application while also leaving space for 3rd party developers to innovate and expand the the capabilities.

SO, Pages is a good, basic word processor, and if you want more buy a top-end one: Word, Nisus, Mellel etc.

The Finder is a good basic file manager. Of you want more buy a better one: Pathfinder et al

Folks, you're so noisy with e-mail notifications ON. This topic is not for discussing merits of Folders on top, it's for finding a solution to make it work with El Capitan.

Those users, who don't see the point of folders on top, simply go by, no need to disprove undisprovable. Your opinion has negative contribution to this thread.

Perhaps you need to read back over the thread where I pointed out the obvious solution. And of course, you can turn off notifications.

Thanks for your solution, but Finder satisfies 99% of my needs, apart from this extremely annoying "folders all over the place" bit. Looked at Pathfinder, not my cup of tea. XtraFidner was awesome (and free), sad it's gone due to the new security model.

Crontab solution is viable for those, who do not keep whole system in Dropbox (as I do). Updating folders' last modified date would constantly send (I assume) dropbox into rescan cycle, which is undesirable behaviour, obviously.

So, I'd rather keep this thread to the point and easily googlealbe, for others benefit, and ongoing discussion of possible solutions to this PROBLEM.