Philips Hue - Homekit sharing

Hi,


I'm currently implementing my new Philips Hue bridge version 2 with Homekit support.

Everything is working very nice on my iCloud account on all my devices. iPad, iPhone and apple watch.

So I would like to share my homekit device with my girlfriend. No problem because you can share

it either via Homekit in settings or via the Hue app.


When the invitation is send and she accepts we still get the respons from siri that she can't find any

devices. We tried resetting everything, reinstalling the app but all with the same results.


Is this still a bug or did I overlook something?


Thanks for your help!


Kind regards,


Georges

iPhone 5c, iOS 9.0.2

Posted on Oct 9, 2015 12:33 PM

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Posted on Nov 3, 2015 12:33 PM

Georges,


First of all sorry for my bad English.


I also got the same problem on my girlfriends iphone but managed to fix this.


This where my steps: (Primairy device: My iphone6s IOS9.1, Secondairy device: Girlfriends iphone6s IOS9.1)


1. Secondair device settings -->Homekit--> change--> Remove all homes

2. primariy device -->settings-->homekit-->home-->change-->remove the secundairy user

3. Remove Hue app on secondair device

4. Install the hue app back again on your secondair device

5. Login on your hue app with a differend account then the main account that allready is connected on your primairy device (admin)

6. go to your primairy device --> settings siri -->select all scenes you wanna share--> right top --> typ the mail adress from your secondair device from step 4 and send request

7. Accept the request on your secondair device

8. check on your secondair device : Settings-->Homekit--> check if the shared home (configured step 5) is now the only home you see

9. test siri on your secondair device saying the following commands:

• Turn on my [lamp name] (e.g. “Turn on my Sofa lamp”)

• Turn off my [lamp name] (e.g. “Turn of my Reading lamp”)

• Dim my [lamp name] (e.g. “Dim my Bedside lamp”)

• Dim my [lamp name] to [xx]% (e.g. “Dim my Bedside lamp to 90%”)

• Set my [lamp name] to [color] (e.g., “Set my Cooking lamp to orange”)


So the main problem is that homekit default made a "home" config for you. When you accept the sharing from your primairy device the "shared home" gets the secondair config in homekit.

Homekit can only see devices from your "primairy home" so you need to delete the default emty "home" config so the shared "home" config gets primairy in home kit.


Hope these settings also gonna work out for you guys.

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Nov 3, 2015 12:33 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

Georges,


First of all sorry for my bad English.


I also got the same problem on my girlfriends iphone but managed to fix this.


This where my steps: (Primairy device: My iphone6s IOS9.1, Secondairy device: Girlfriends iphone6s IOS9.1)


1. Secondair device settings -->Homekit--> change--> Remove all homes

2. primariy device -->settings-->homekit-->home-->change-->remove the secundairy user

3. Remove Hue app on secondair device

4. Install the hue app back again on your secondair device

5. Login on your hue app with a differend account then the main account that allready is connected on your primairy device (admin)

6. go to your primairy device --> settings siri -->select all scenes you wanna share--> right top --> typ the mail adress from your secondair device from step 4 and send request

7. Accept the request on your secondair device

8. check on your secondair device : Settings-->Homekit--> check if the shared home (configured step 5) is now the only home you see

9. test siri on your secondair device saying the following commands:

• Turn on my [lamp name] (e.g. “Turn on my Sofa lamp”)

• Turn off my [lamp name] (e.g. “Turn of my Reading lamp”)

• Dim my [lamp name] (e.g. “Dim my Bedside lamp”)

• Dim my [lamp name] to [xx]% (e.g. “Dim my Bedside lamp to 90%”)

• Set my [lamp name] to [color] (e.g., “Set my Cooking lamp to orange”)


So the main problem is that homekit default made a "home" config for you. When you accept the sharing from your primairy device the "shared home" gets the secondair config in homekit.

Homekit can only see devices from your "primairy home" so you need to delete the default emty "home" config so the shared "home" config gets primairy in home kit.


Hope these settings also gonna work out for you guys.

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Nov 8, 2015 6:55 AM in response to ddetaeye

THANK YOU FOR THIS!


Although, all I had to do on my wife's phone to get it to work was Settings>HomeKit> and then "Edit" and remove her primary home kit. As soon as I did that, Siri started working to control the lights!


I had been struggling with this for hours, and your post has helped me solve the problem, thanks again! I set up the home kit sharing with my wife (iPhone 6S+) and both the kids (both iPhone 5s). The kids phones were able to control the lights right away with Siri, the wife's phone was not. The only difference that I see now is, that the kids 5s iPhones do not have a "primary" home under home kit, they only have the "shared" home. So deleting the wife's primary home solved the issue.

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Oct 12, 2015 11:57 AM in response to GeorgesVDR

GeorgesVDR,


I am having the same exact issue. Talked to Apple, they said it's a Philips issue. Talked to Philips, they said it's a Apple issue. I'm more inclined to think this is a Apple software issue though. When going into phone settings, there is a pending action at the top, which is to accept or deny the homekit invite. I've accepted the invite but the phone doesn't recognize that I've accepted and still shows a pending invite action. I've logged in and out of icloud, turned the phone off/on, reset settings, still no luck.


Any luck on your end?

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Oct 12, 2015 8:43 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

I'm having the same issue here. I set up my Philips Hue Bridge 2.0 and connected all of my devices (iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch). All of my devices are working just fine. I invited my wife (separate Apple ID) to access our "home" in HomeKit. She's installed the Hue app and is able to adjust all of our HomeKit devices through the Hue app. Our problem is just with "Siri Voice Control", each time we use Siri on my wife's iPhone 6s Plus we get an error stating "Siri is unable to find any lights at this time".


In the Hue app --> Settings --> Siri Voice control on my wife's device it says that she is not the admin of Home to which the HomeKit enabled Bridge is paired. I'm thinking this is what's causing the issue with Siri. All scenes and lights are listed.


We've tried restarting, re-installing, etc. with no luck.


If anyone is able to figure this out, can you please post the solution?

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Oct 13, 2015 5:48 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

I have a similar problem. Homekit+Siri+Hue works fine for me, but sharing the settings doesn't work for my wife. On her iPhone, it shows that the HomeKit shared setting has been accepted (although, at first, it showed an erroneous invitation notification even after the invitation was accepted -- we had to restart her phone to make that go away). however the shared HomeKit setting isn't reflected in the Hue app. When I go to Hue > Settings> Siri control, it just gives an error that the HomeKit settings must be shared. It's acting like the Hue app doesn't acknowledge the shared HomeKit settings.

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Oct 21, 2015 6:16 PM in response to durome04

durome04, My understanding is that only one user can connect to a home kit device. That one user would then be the admin, but they could share their home by inviting them. My issue is that I've invited and shared, the other person accepts, but they cannot connect to my shared home.


In the Hue app --> Settings --> Siri Voice control-->tap the box with the up arrow in the top right. This is where the admin would invite other users.

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Oct 23, 2015 11:48 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

I also have the same issue. I am going to say it's Apple issue and not a Philips issue. If you use a 3rd party app like Elgato Eve to manage Home Kit, then you will be able to confirm that your second user has indeed been added. You'll also see all the Hue scenes that have been added, so you can confirm this are there in the cloud. They was I understand it to work is that Siri uses those Home Kit settings (which have been exported from HUE) and then Home Kit makes a call to the Hue to actually control it. Since the scenes are in Home Kit and the User is these as well, it should work. The specific problem I have is that Siri won't recognize any of the commands(for HUE) that are in Home Kit for that added user. How is that a Philips problem?


IMO - Home Kit is still half baked and Apple took it out of the oven too early. First of all, why isn't there an Apple app to manage it? And, another issue with HUE is that if you have a scene with more that 15 lights and you try to add it to Siri in the HUE app, it fails and states that it is too many lights for Siri to handle. I have found and discussion on the web about this yet, but surely someone else has experienced this.

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Oct 27, 2015 6:06 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

I am having two problems:


#1) I am able to use siri to control my lights with my iPhone, but not my iPad


#2) I was able to share with my wife, but her phone is not recognizing any commands given.


It sounds like my second question doesn't have an answer at this time, but can anyone help out with my first question?

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Oct 29, 2015 4:37 PM in response to GeorgesVDR

Yep...wasted several hours trying to get this to work. All the documentation on the web says just invite and things work. Yea.....NOPE. I've sent the invite, accepted the invite on the other account and nothing works. Hue app doesn't see the scenes, Eve app doesn't see anything either although both apps work fine on my device.

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Oct 30, 2015 1:58 AM in response to dvanryzin

Hi,

Same Problem here (in Germany 🙂 )

got my starterset yesterday. On the first device (my ipad) it worked fine with siri. On my iphonebni got the "sync-error". Signed out and in in iCloud several times, resetted the bridge. At some point it then worked, even on my watch. Really a cool thing.


Then my wife came home and i tried to set up her devices. And here we are again.: the app works fine on all devices (ipad,phone and watch)

But siri wont´t work. Sometimes i can se the scenes in the siri-settings (but without being marked) sometimes i get the "Sync-Error". signed in and out icloud several times.


What is strange. When at least the scenes showed up on the shared device. There are also scenes that i've already deleted or renamed on the "admin-device".


After all the fiddling now i can only sync scenes on my iphone. Not anymore on my ipad. (before i could do that on both devices) Now it says "the name is already existend in icloud, choose an other name"


(Another wired thing.(has nothing to doo with HUE: On my phone5s, ipad air and my wifes ipad i see the Homekit-icon in Settings just below the safari-icon. On my wifes iphone 5s ioS9.1 there is no homekit-icon ???? has anyone that too ?)



Did anyone tried one of the thir party apps (like "Home") wether they work with siri.


Best regads from Germany

Christian

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Oct 30, 2015 3:03 AM in response to GeorgesVDR

I have an ongoing Facebook chat with the Philips Support since 8. October. This is their Answer right now.


Hi Ronald, Sorry we couldn't get back to you earlier!


This issue is still going on, our development team working hard on a solution. We hope to see a hotfix deployed soon.

Thank you for your patience.


Semir

Thanks for the update Ronald. Right now we do not have more info why this is happening (either on our end or on Apple end) but we will keep you updated as soon we have more info/solution.


Thanks,


Semir


So stay tuned.


Ron

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Nov 1, 2015 11:03 AM in response to FlyingDutchman68

Update


at least i finaly was able to accept the invitation on my wifes iPhone. Only then, after accepting, the HK Icon appeared in Settings just below Safari .

now Even Siri works on her watch


the only thing i havn't figured out. How to get Siri working on my wifes iPad too. Since the invitation is already accepted on th iPhone, i can't accept anymore on the iPad. When sending the invitatin again, nothings happens of coures.

so how can i share with two devices running the same apple id ???

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