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How get holding down letter pop up accents menu in El Capitan?

In OS X Yosemite, I could hold down a letter such as e and get a pop-up menu of accented versions. (In various apps and even in Finder when naming a file.)


This is no longer working in El Capitan (10.11.1).


How fix?

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5), 3.4GHz Corei7, 16GB, SSD + 2T HD

Posted on Oct 26, 2015 5:42 PM

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Oct 26, 2015 7:58 PM in response to murrayE

murrayE wrote:


I should add that when I do hold down, say the a key or the e key, everything freezes: I cannot delete that letter or save the file.



In some apps where the pop-up used to appear under Yosemite, now holding down the letter key just causes multiple copies of the letter to be entered. (Is that a clue?)

Yes that is a key.


the default behavior of the accent menu, use Terminal to enter the following command, press Return, and then log out and back in:

defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool true


in El Cap you may have to disable SIP About System Integrity Protection on your Mac - Apple Support

Oct 27, 2015 7:48 AM in response to Barney-15E

Barney-15E wrote:

murrayE wrote:


Alas, adding another Latin language (I tried British) to keyboard layouts in Keyboard system preferences did not fix the problem.

English isn't a Latin (a.k.a. Romance) language. Try French, Spanish, Italian...

OK, added Italian. No change -- the hold-down-key to get pop-up accents menu is still not working.

Oct 27, 2015 8:26 AM in response to leroydouglas

leroydouglas wrote:


murrayE wrote:


I should add that when I do hold down, say the a key or the e key, everything freezes: I cannot delete that letter or save the file.



In some apps where the pop-up used to appear under Yosemite, now holding down the letter key just causes multiple copies of the letter to be entered. (Is that a clue?)

Yes that is a key.


the default behavior of the accent menu, use Terminal to enter the following command, press Return, and then log out and back in:

defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool true


in El Cap you may have to disable SIP About System Integrity Protection on your Mac - Apple Support

That worked! And without having to temporarily disable SIP. It did require logout and log back in to take effect.


Many thanks!


(The mystery remains as to how ApplePressAndHoldEnabled became disabled. It was enabled in Yosemite, and the Apple docs for El Capitan seem to suggest that this is the default behavior.)

Oct 27, 2015 8:51 AM in response to murrayE

murrayE wrote:

That worked! And without having to temporarily disable SIP. It did require logout and log back in to take effect.


Many thanks!


(The mystery remains as to how ApplePressAndHoldEnabled became disabled. It was enabled in Yosemite, and the Apple docs for El Capitan seem to suggest that this is the default behavior.)


Good computing murrayE !

Well yes, maybe a mystery however it is not a perfect science; after all it is just a bunch of ones and zeros. 😉



MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2012), OS X El Capitan(10.11.1), i7 480GB SSD 16GB RAM iPhone5 iOS9.1, Parallels10.0.2

Feb 6, 2016 1:44 PM in response to murrayE

As suggested, changing default does not appear to work on ElCap without SIP disabling, and one would argue that disabling SIP to obtain this feature is totally inappropriate. Why does Apple continue to break every feature it introduces, lol.....


What is not clear from the discussion above is whether once SIP is disabled, whether the solution then requires the default change, and then turning SIP back on ;-)


so -the follow on question is that since the csrutil must be used from recovery mode, can the change in default then be implemented via discovery mode, and will it then stick once the system is changed to csrutil and rebooted?


and, why isn;t there a much much much simpler way to access this wonderful feature?

Feb 10, 2016 3:44 AM in response to llorathe

llorathe wrote:


This worked but I had to check how to find Teminal - it is in applications, then utilities - and I copied and pasted the command once I worked this out and it worked.


There is a much easier way, which works for any application. Use Spotlight.

Command-Space and start typing the name of the application; when you see it filled in, press enter.

This is usually the fastest method - even fastest than clicking in the Dock!

Feb 10, 2016 3:45 AM in response to net-buoy

net-buoy wrote:


As suggested, changing default does not appear to work on ElCap without SIP disabling, and one would argue that disabling SIP to obtain this feature is totally inappropriate. Why does Apple continue to break every feature it introduces, lol.....



This is NOT true.

The solution suggested above to change the defaults via the Terminal does not in any way require SIP disabling. What led you to think it did?!

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