Adobe Photoshop CS4 & El Capitan

Hi Jimmy, you are looking into the future. "May the Force be with you"

1) I am 66 years old, still alive, sorry about that

2) There are 20 new members in my family since my birthday, let say: 20 new releases

3) My car is 20 years old, still supported by the vendor

4) My sailboat is 16 years old, supported by the same vendor

5) My Guitar is 45 years old and still working well

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Y) My wife is supporting me since 45 years

But

1) My"old" 5 years old iPhone 3g is not supported by Apple and locked at iOS 6.1.6 so not able to synchronize with El Capitan

2) My Adobe products 5 years old are not support by Adobe and/or Apple.

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x) I've paid all hardware and software I am using

So please, Apple and Adobe and Oracle, take care of end users. Take care of Disturbances in the Force

"May the Force be with us all."

Francis

I get it you old, I'm no spring chicken either but firstly I have supported hundreds of macs and pcs that rely on Adobe products for corporations and the oracle java is not for applications software that needs java - it is for web pages that need java, and you are directing anyone who looks at this page to use it as a solution to this issue and it is not correct.

the Java needed in the event CS will work with your workflow is the Java 2015 from Apple, not anything else.

If you updated your pickups and your guitar suddenly sounds like a duck when you plug it into your amp is it the guitar at fault?

you updated your software, it's not compatible, if you left it in a state where the OS and CS were copacetic it would be, but you didn't and now you expect a line of reasoning that is unreasonable.

45 years you've had your guitar? Have you ever changed the strings? You shouldn't have to, it should just work with perfect intonation on the ones that came from the factory? Right?

here's a bit of computer advice from one crotchety old man to another (don't bother trying to fool me into saying your not, you are)

back up before you update so you can continue on your path or go back? 20 year old car? Does it have a spare tire? Do I need to explain why?

Jimmy,

if you take a look at my previous posts, you will see that I started with the Java 2015 from Apple first without any success.

This is my test. So If you please, is it possible to make some screen shots of your official solution for previous Adobe release like CS4 and CS5 under El Capitan? You are level 4 with 1,965 points, I'm just a beginner with level 1, and 0 point.

To go back to my old classical guitar, let's say unplugged, I change the strings every year at minimum. That strings are always compatible, year after year. My Guitar is like my MacBookPro, the strings are like Apple OS/X and the music I am playing "Before You Accuse Me" from Bo Diddley is like Adobe Photoshop. They are working always together for ever. When I will be died, my son will continue playing "Hey Hey" from Big Bill Broonzy with my Guitar. I am not sure that he will be able to continue with the Macbookpro and Adobe products.

I am waiting for an official detailed step by step solution for that subject Adobe photoshop CS4 and CS5 under OS/X 10.11.2. Because I will install El Capitan next week for one daughter, she is using all Adobe products. CS5 level: InDesign, illustrator....

https://helpx.adobe.com/fr/creative-suite/kb/cs5-product-downloads.html

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There will not be an official detailed step by step solution for this though, since Adobe is not supporting CS4 or 5 anymore. They have no interest in providing that information. The best hope is to do what you were told with the Java 2015 update and hope for the best. And chances are very good that in upcoming OS X releases, there will be no way to make it work.

In the tech market, change is money. That is a fact of life. The likes of Apple, Adobe,

Microsoft, Google, etc. cannot make money if they all produce products that can be purchased

and used for 10 years or more without issue. Planned (or unplanned) obsolescence is simply

the economic model of the entire tech industry.

Board of Directors of all corporation want expansion and higher stock prices. That

is capitalism. So, new products and obsolescence are a fact of life.

Adobe is done supporting CS4, CS5, and CS6 in every way, shape and form they possibly can so nothing will ever happen with it from Adobes side and any hack to fix it is just a hack, but I can only tell you what I've had to do with a number of clients throughout the years of being in situations where I was called in to fix some design software for a graphic artist.

I suggest you uninstall CS4 with the adobe cleaning tools available on the web (and I would achieve these in the event Adobe pulls them)

http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cs4clean.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems. html

then reinstall CS4

and you will need the Java 2015 from Apple, not the on from Sun/Oracle they server very different purposes on the mac.

if that does not work you can create a new account in OS X with administrative rights, boot into that account and test.

and I will leave you with this. He flipped the strings so the neck and nut are not designed for it and his intonation is out and he still nails it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPtv14q9ZDg

good luck with the CS4.

Well said Courtox!! The richest company in the world and they can't support 5 year old products. No wonder the car companies are broke. Can you imagine if Apple does make a car and stops supporting it after 5 years? I bet if they read this post they will halt production immediately.... Tim Cook, "20 years of support? never thought of that." Can you really go down to a Chev dealer and order carberator parts for a 1973 Chev pickup? I think you can.

Having said all this i did get CS4 working on my 2011 iMac with El Capitan. With the flash updater. But it was **** and don't ask me how. I am not doing it to my laptop. I think it was a fluke. If they gave the same deal to InDesign users as Photoshop users at $9.99 month for CC I may go for it. The thing I really hate is once you start creating files in CC there is no going back. 1000's of files in CC and if they raise the price what can you do? Unless Quark offers something amazing that also converts. Poor Quark.

oh me. 😎

Hello everybody!
I read carefully the conversation because I thought change my old but still powerful imac (with snow leopard sistem), for a new type 27 ". And I've seen that is a big problem, I use the range of Adobe CS4 graphics programs and do not have and good internet (rural area in s-pain) how to risk a cloud even creative! apart from that I just do not like the system to be gripped by the neck.

For all these reasons I throw my question who can answer. How long that system apple ensures that CS4 run good? I'll stay there until there is no "tutia" remedy.

Anyway as I keep a G4 because my scanner likes your SCSI port, which disappeared from the imac.

hola a todo el mundo!

Leí con atención su conversación porque yo pensaba cambiar mi viejo pero aún potente imac (con snow leopard sistem), por uno nuevo tipo 27". Y ya he visto que es un problemón, yo uso el abanico de adobe CS4 programas gráficos y no tengo ni buen internet (zona rural in s-pain) ¡cómo para arriesgarme a una nube por creativa que sea! aparte de que no me acaba de gustar el sistema de estar agarrada por el cuello.

Por todo ello lanzo mi pregunta a quien pueda contestar ¿hasta que sistema apple garantiza que CS4 funcione sin problemas? allí me quedaré hasta que no haya "tutía" remedio.

De todas formas ya guardo un G4 porque a mi scanner le gusta su puerto SCSI, que desapareció de los imac.

if the apple system uses the software recommend by the distributor there should not be a problem provided the developer actually tested it. In the case of CS4 adobe recommended:

• PowerPC® G5 or multicore Intel® processor
• Mac OS X v10.4.11–10.5.4
• 512 MB of RAM (1 GB recommended)
• 2 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system or on flash-based storage devices)
• 1,024 x 768 display (1,280 x 800 recommended) with 16-bit graphics adapter
• Some GPU-accelerated features require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0
• DVD-ROM drive
• QuickTime 7.2 software required for multimedia features
• Broadband Internet connection required for online services*

Once you step out of this matrix you are on your own. Photoshop and it's components were written at a time when frameworks for a specific OS were in palace, change the OS and there is a possibility the necessary framework for a plugin or a module or the entire application will no longer work. In the even of CS4 not working in anything past 10.4.11 - 10.5.4 no one can fix it. Adobe CS is closed source, no 3rd party can write a fix, if it works in OS 10.11.5 and suddenly breaks in 10.11.6 Apple is not going to fix it and Adobe has stopped supporting it years ago, it is mummy-ware, if it rises from the dead and works for you now thats good, if it breaks too bad, if you need it and can't do without it I would keep at least one system or one HD with either 10.4.11 or 10.5.4 handy to run it in the event your production goes Total Inability To Support Usual Performance.

I Just found this thread.

I am planning to replace my 2009 iMac with a new one, maybe the 27 inch.

Currently I upgraded my OS on my 2009 lMac to El Capitan and my applications, including CS4 seem to run OK.

I have read some problems (and some OK) with installing CS4 on El Capitan and I want to minimize issues, I hope I have the right approach.

1 Start up the new lMac and get settings current, maybe with migration assistant.

2 Install SuperDuper and Clone my startup drive.

3 Download and install Java for OSX 2015-001 from the Apple servers.

4 Deregister CS4 on my old iMac

5 Inatall CS4 from the installation disks

6 Input authorization codes for CS4 on the new iMac.

Is this a good approach?

what else should I do to minimize problems?

Thanks for any and all help,

Andy