Mouse support for iPad pro

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Apple just reported its fourth quarter earnings for 2016, showing a decline in iPhone sales for the third consecutive quarter and the first full-year drop in revenue since 2001. iPad sales were down as well, both year over year (-6 percent) and from the third quarter of this year (-7 percent). Just 9.3 million iPads sold this quarter.

So you would be happy with a similar decrease in your renumeration package ??

If the ipad had mouse support then it would appeal to more people, and they would sell more of them.

Sorry. I do not have the time or patience to search through hundreds of ads from Apple within the last 3-4 years from hundreds of countries. There are a number of ads if you look through it that has water based events that would seriously void warranties under those situations. There's plenty more other examples and situations of false advertising that I will not go into here, but they have been pulled up every so often by Australian Consumer affairs on these claims.

One more comment and I an unfollowing this post.

Apple conceptualises, designs, manufactures/builds, sells unique products that combine a variety of technologies in new, never conceived of, innovative ways, that NO ONE has EVER seen or used before.

No one had successful touch screen devices until Apple changed that WHOLE, Industry-wide paradigm!

Microsoft failed miserably at touch screen devices until Apple entered this product category.

Apple does not design and build products by large comittees or public comittees/public opinion/demand.

Apple designs and builds the kinds of products that Apple wants to design and builds and, hopefully, the consumer public embraces their products.

This doesn't happening with Apple all of the time, but their product hit to miss ratio is a lot higher than most other product companies.

Apple thinks of new products that no one thought they would ever need, want or use using cutting edge technologies in electronics, materials manufacture and software/UI design.

So, if Apple does not want to incorporate a feature into their products, you can bet this is a design DECSION and NOT an oversight by Apple.

Also, while you can offer product feedback and Apple DOES read ALL feedback from its product using community, this does not mean Apple will just change or rethink/redesign something based on that feedback.

Again, Apple does and makes what it wants to do and make and does not always bow down/kowtow to public feedback, opinions or demands unless that public/user numbers are VERY LARGE percentage ( more than 20-25% say).

Even when these feedback numbers ARE large, it is STILL in the hands of Apple's own discretion whether they will address a product issue or not.

I'm otta here!

Honestly mate. It's no point to argue with Apple. They do not play by the rules because they think they make the rules on how everyone should be using tablets. I personally use a Samsung Tab S2 that natively supports keyboard, mice, gamepads and a whole bunch of USB peripherals that iOS will never support. Productivity on the Samsung is way higher with the mouse - use it like a tablet when I am out and about, use it like a PC/Laptop when I need the extra grunt. Even RDP works better to connect into corporate resources and Cloud Desktop-as-a-Service.

As one of the other posts have said - children can use this iPad without a mouse. It really shows that the iPad is made for Children and why Microsoft rightly markets their Surface as being a professional tablet. Unlike the iPad "Pro".

bchliu wrote:

"That is

Super. Computer. Not, supercomputer.

It is nothing more than mere marketing speak, in "that computer is super"."

Something called False Advertising. Apple are GREAT at it with their marketing propaganda engine. Like having TV ads that show the iphone being soaked in water by actors when their warranty does not extend to water damage.

There is absolutely nothing false about the advertising. It is generic statement and many people do indeed feel their iPad is great, super or even superb. A single generic descriptor is not a false statement by any stretch if the imagination. They could have used

Great. Computer. Or. Amazing. Computer. Or used any other adjective they'd wished to and none of those statements would even remotely qualify as false advertising.

Fake news because it does not conform to your personal beliefs of Apple Worship? Just Search "Apple False Advertising" and see how many entries come up from legitimate News sites. There's at least two instances every year since the iPhone was created for their misleading practices.

iMister wrote:

Quote from http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/25/13410662/apples-big-expensive-ipad-push-has-k ept-ipad-revenue-flat-at-least

Apple just reported its fourth quarter earnings for 2016, showing a decline in iPhone sales for the third consecutive quarter and the first full-year drop in revenue since 2001. iPad sales were down as well, both year over year (-6 percent) and from the third quarter of this year (-7 percent). Just 9.3 million iPads sold this quarter.

So you would be happy with a similar decrease in your renumeration package ??

If the ipad had mouse support then it would appeal to more people, and they would sell more of them.

Sales of all smart phones are down and have been declineg for a long time as many markets are at or near saturation. Tablet, laptop and personal computer sales likewise have been steadily going down for quite awhile. Apple's sales declines are no different than any other consumer electronics makers - the market for such devices is flat and has been for some years now. Apple iPads still outsold MS surface tablets last year.

A Surface does not work since it is doesn't have mobile connectivity, battery power is poor for field work, and it is clumsy in comparison to an iPad. Plus, it is not desired by anyone who prefers Apple's iOS.

So, if I go to the volunteer run support community for the Surface, will I find you debating this with the group?

Demanding that Microsoft add mobile connectivity?

Make their batteries better,

Make it stop being clumsy?

Tell them how un-clumsy the iPad is?

Pointing out to the group.. c'mon, these are standard features.

Fake news because it was a statement that the user refused to back up.

I googled "apple false advertising". Then I googled "alien abductions". There were twice as many hits. So clearly by your standard of Google as the arbiter of truth alien abductions must be real. OTOH, "microsoft false advertising" also had twice as many hits as Apple. As did "google false advertising". Then "Facebook false advertising" swept the field, with 10 times as many hits as any of the others.

I'm a professional artist ( only working part-time, now, due to health issue restrictions) and I have been doing professional art and design on iPads, in addition to my Mac, since the first iPad came out in 2010!

I took to iPads for real creative art and design work, like a duck to water!

I had 3 iPads prior to my latest purchase of an iPad Pro in Nov 2015 and I have no regrets.

I have been waiting, patiently, for larger screen iPads for 5 years.

The iPad is NOT for everyone, but iPads were a great fit for me!

There are plenty of "professional" iPad users, just like me. I am not some exception or minority professional user.

But you are absolutely correct. There are other alternatives that, definitely, address and cover all of Apple's iDevice/iPad shortcommings.

😉

Difference is that Apple got FINED for their malpractices with evidence presented in law courts and institutions around the world. Alien Abductees have little to no substantial evidence to prove their claims.

#FakeNews when you dont believe it? Maybe the Russians made it all up to defame Apple?

iMister wrote:

The ipad pro is not a supercomputer, dont believe eveything Apple tells you.

Eexactly! And clearly some people here have no real clue of what the term supercomputer really means. There is no consumer level desktop, laptop, tablet, or even enterprise grade single server that even remotely qualifies as a supercomputer. Any use of such a reference is clearly tongue in cheek.

Even the current smallest of the worlds top 500 supercomputers has more than 5,000 physical compute cores, and draws over 400kW of power at peak use. Clearly the use of the term "super" in regard to any consumer electronics product is pure marketing hyperbole.

bchliu wrote:

Sorry. I do not have the time or patience to search through hundreds of ads from Apple within the last 3-4 years from hundreds of countries. There are a number of ads if you look through it that has water based events that would seriously void warranties under those situations. There's plenty more other examples and situations of false advertising that I will not go into here, but they have been pulled up every so often by Australian Consumer affairs on these claims.

So you can't supply some proof, as I thought, there are none.

Difference is that Apple got FINED for their malpractices with evidence presented in law courts and institutions around the world.

Show us the findings specifically for their "Super. Computer." claim and take this thread in a new direction.

Show us a successful action by any government that speaks to Apple's reluctance (avoidance?) to enable mouse usage on an iPad and how this behaviour violates any consumer law.

How Apple's advertising misled any reasonable consumer in to believing they would be able to use a mouse with an iPad.

Show us any claim of harm from Apple's behaviour re: non-mousing ability of iPads.

Thanks for your post bchliu. I see your point about Apple. I'll check out the Samsung Tab S2. It's too bad Apple can't at least enable a mouse with the iPad Pro. It then really gives it parity with products like what you're suggesting.