Apple TV 4 - Home Sharing Slideshows - Scratching my head...

Hey guys, I've had my Apple TV 2 for a million years. I love it. One of the features I enjoy the most is the home sharing+itunes+Apple TV (2)+Computers+photos combo to put my 20k+ photos on the big screen, as slideshows (mostly using Ken Burns) with music using an iTunes playlist and screen saver (normally floating theme)...


So, I got my new 32GB flashy Apple TV 4 and...

- Home sharing seems to work fine

- I can share all that content without problems, as far as I can tell


but:

- The slideshow music settings are gone... in ATV2 you set a playlist in the slideshow settings and you're all set. ATV4 = nowhere to be found.

- Photos show out of order sometimes, not consistently (?). They start fine, then out of nowhere, it randomly presents some pictures out of the album. Seems like a bug to me.

- I can only start a slideshow from the beginning. (in my Apple 2 I can choose a photo and run the slideshow from that point). Seems like another bug to me.


(I haven't checked slideshows in the Photos app, because I can't care less about putting my stuff in the cloud, to be honest. Same with the music stuff.)


So, I'm not a happy camper right now. I'm I missing something or this is a really half baked $150 bucs thing? This feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade so far except for being faster (and I'll leave the whining about the remote control, the keyboard situation, siri, bluetooth for another time).


Thanks!

Apple TV (4th generation)

Posted on Nov 4, 2015 8:00 AM

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Mar 24, 2016 1:24 PM in response to edivon

i talked to Appple support today about the shoddy workmanship in the slideshow saga. " well it's not really designed for that " ! oh well that makes it ok then lol so she had me reset reinstall all the software cause company policy says so and guess what. it's still the same now there a surprise , I got a reference no to contact apple about the problem but to be totally honest what difference will it make ? Apple know about the problem they just can't be bothered to fix it iam paying extra for iCloud storage and it's not really working for me and my photos as I can't see them in the fashion I would like may just go back to Flickr pro and I think the give you about 10gb storage for the same kind of money

Mar 24, 2016 1:40 PM in response to foxcub 6

I decided I would email this to Tim Cook at Apple. If that doesn't get a response, I will try to get someone (who has > 1 million followers on Twitter) to tweet it to Apple Support on Twitter and to Tim Cook on Twitter.


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Hi Tim,

Long time Apple user (Apple ][ plus, 128k Mac etc), and was curious if you could help get to the bottom of the slideshow bug in the 4th Gen Apple TV. In short, it doesn't work properly, unlike in the Gen 1,2, and 3 Apple TVs and has been like that with all the versions of tvOS (9.0 to 9.2). It shows some photos in order, then randomly shows them out of order and often just ends the slideshow abruptly.


See Apple developer bug report numbers: 23038324 and 25328408 (among others).


[Link to video showing the problem]


And one of several Apple Support forum discussions:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7321908?answerId=29961343022#29961343022

Thanks for looking into this and try to help the Apple TV become a more bug free product.

Thank you again,

Mar 24, 2016 2:28 PM in response to Christian Riley

What I did notice was if I switched off repeat in the slide show I get about 5 photos and then it stops and goes back to the main slideshow ,menu . Something else which I have noticed since updating was when clicking on my computer to use home sharing some times it crashes Back to the main menu sometimes it works and some times I get a few photos then it goes back to the menu again, this is something that either I never noticed in the earlier software or it was by luck has anybody else noticed this problem

Mar 24, 2016 2:34 PM in response to foxcub 6

Same here. If auto-repeat is disabled, after a few slides the show stops and returns to the main slideshow menu screen. For an update that was 3 months in the works (with about 8 or so public beta versions) I would have thought that these highly visible slideshow bugs had been worked out. But like someone here said, apparently, a new app switcher, folder, Siri whatever was more important than fixing a jarring bug.

Mar 24, 2016 8:52 PM in response to Christian Riley

Christian,

Thanks for doing that. Its a lot of effort you put into demonstrating this bug. I just can't imagine the developers of tvOS are not also users of ATV4, and this kind of behavior would drive the crazy and they would never let this get out in the public. (Looks bad on their resume). I am very disappointed in the Apple testing folks for letting this stuff get out. A related bug in tvOS 2.2 is that if you turn on iCould photo library and then try to select an album to be your screen saver, you get to the screen that shows all the albums but the "set as screen saver" button in the upper right is missing so while we can now see our photos from the cloud we still can't use them as a screen saver (buggy or not). I certainly think a screen saver, is the second priority, after viewing, that most users would have. So it should be at the top of any test plan. To me it appears that the managers of these development groups do not hold their developers to high standards. These kind of bugs have a very high visibility and really reflect bad on a company that prides itself in its products.


Alex

Mar 25, 2016 2:31 AM in response to foxcub 6

Yes, I originally reported this error (slideshow returning to menu after a number of photos) ,and I got this "workaround" from Apple: Either set duration to something less than 5 seconds or enable the repeat function. And yes that kept the slideshow running, BUT after a number of photos - in the wrong order (as documented by many here).

I wrote this to Apple November 23, 2015:

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I can confirm that the two mentioned workarounds are working “to a degree”:

  • Choosing a duration of 3 seconds/photo keeps the slideshow running.
  • Choosing a duration of 5 seconds/photo and setting repeat=yes keeps the slideshow running.

But common to both workarounds is that after 25 photos, then photos are shown “randomish” … not completely random but absolutely not in order, as chosen in the settings.

So, I’m looking forward to a software update for the Apple TV :-)

BTW, I was sad to see that my earlier post here has disappeared - turn out that is has been "branched out".

/Carsten


Mar 26, 2016 8:52 AM in response to mandrieu

The same here. I just updated my ATV4 to the newest software version. Nothing seems to be fixed regarding the slide shows.

For the moment I downgraded to my old ATV2. Slideshows run very nicely on that device.

On Apple TV 2:

  • Slideshows run in the correct picture order
  • can be paused and restarted anytime
  • can be startet from any selected picture
  • come with music

I am really frustrated about the poor support of slideshows in Apple TV 4. I am very close to trying slideshows on an Amazon Kindle Fire TV stick. If that will work better, I think I will leave the Apple TV products.

😟


Mar 28, 2016 6:37 PM in response to samaki

Samaki,

Yes I agree, even Tim Cook should be seeing this while showing off his Apple TV to his friends! So why no fix? I work in hardware design and what is frustrating to me, as engineers we come up with the most creative metal only changes using the fewest metal layers to our designs when a bug has been found in a chip and we fix it. Here all that is needed is a editor, and a few lines of code, some regression testing and release the fix, not expensive masks that have to be created. I just don't understand the expectations that software managers have on their teams. This is happening in living rooms all over the world what would be more important to fix?

Mar 29, 2016 4:04 AM in response to Alex Spencer

Yep, very frustrating. I'm a software guy, a Product Manger. This is a poor quality product in my book, and the lack of action fixing some of these things that are very simple (and before I get nailed by someone, I repeat, I'm a software PM, > 20 years in the industry, I know this stuff) a junior programmer would take care of all in a day or 2, it means to me they don't care, have other priorities, higher than their customer's experiences. And as a customer, I can't forget I'm not expecting them to do me a favor to fix it... I paid $150 for something that was presented to me as "the next... blah blah blah" compared with what I had (ATV 2 and ATV 3) and it ended up being a regression instead. Sorry for the ranting...

May 6, 2016 8:36 AM in response to Michael Spryn

Hello All,

I really appreciate this post! I'm an ATV3 user and the slideshow is the the glue that keeps me on the ATV. My current ATV3 constantly resets so I have been considering the upgrade to ATV4 - I won't be doing that if I cannot have a solid slideshow experience. I have +25k pictures on iCloud, my large screen TV is absolutely the best way to make use of this treasure (photos). My family and extended family come over and are always excited to sit and look at old photos, we laugh joke and reminisce. I'm really getting frustrated with the way Apple just pulls the rug out from under it's customers during upgrades.

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