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Tired of El Capitan Font Issues

I'm tired of El Capitan font issues!


I have removed all but the System Installed Fonts, yet there are constant font conflicts and the display of gibberish characters.


Apple's font management application will not do a comparison of ALL fonts residing on my computer, so fonts that I use for my design work cannot be analyzed alongside the newly installed system fonts.


Again, people at Apple are deciding things that should be the decision of their users, and imposing their judgement and design esthetics on the people who pay for their products.


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Any help would be appreciated.

MacBook Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11.1), iPad, iPhone and iOS 9.1

Posted on Jan 7, 2016 3:05 PM

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Posted on Jan 7, 2016 8:56 PM

Have you had a look at


http://www.jklstudios.com/misc/osxfonts.html

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Mar 4, 2016 7:29 AM in response to djtnyc

I've boiled it down to mostly Postscript 1 fonts incompatibility with Quark under El Capitan.

I noted this earlier in this topic. This is a known issue with El Capitan.


1) If you put legacy Mac TrueType or Type 1 PostScript fonts in the root Library's Fonts folder, they may or may not show up in any, or all apps. You also may only see part of set.


2) If you open legacy Mac TrueType or Type 1 PostScript fonts in any font manager "in place", the same thing will happen.


3) If you put legacy Mac TrueType or Type 1 PostScript fonts into the Fonts folder of your user account, they will work as expected in all apps.


This bug does not affect OpenType fonts. I haven't yet tested to see if this has been fixed in 10.11.3.

Jul 28, 2016 3:17 PM in response to BinsuJiro

I have had to grapple with the same issue for a while, but only because I started removing fonts from the System > Library > Fonts and the Library > Fonts folders. I even had Axure Pro crash on opening files because of missing fonts. I decided to spend some time testing which fonts are causing the issues if missing (removed). I did a "restore" of OSX by restarting a test drive and using "Command+R" to go into restore/ utilities, terminal mode at startup. 30 min of restoring later all the fonts came back. OSX El Capitan installs over 1 GB of fonts between the System > Library > Fonts and the Library > Fonts folders ⚠.


I started removing some fonts from both folders just for the sake of it and test the system. I could usually test quickly between iMessage and emojis in messages if a required font was missing. I also looked at other apps and font displays. I managed to cut fonts down in these two folders to about half of what OSX installs by default.


Hopefully this will help. Here's a list of fonts I have between the System > Library > Fonts and the Library > Fonts folders and everything on my Mac is hunky dory (I'm not saying these are all required, I'm sure I could cut the list down more but I haven't had time to play with it more):


System > Library > Fonts:


Apple Braille Outline 6 Dot.ttf

Apple Braille Outline 8 Dot.ttf

Apple Braille Pinpoint 6 Dot.ttf

Apple Braille Pinpoint 8 Dot.ttf

Apple Braille.ttf

Apple Color Emoji.ttf

Apple Symbols.ttc

AppleSDGothicNeo.ttc

AquaKana.ttc

ArialHB.ttc

Avenir Next Condensed.ttc

Avenir Next.ttc

Avenir.ttc

Courier.dfont

Geneva.dfont

HelveLTMM

Helvetica.dfont

HelveticaNeue.dfont

HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc

Hiragino Sans GB W3.ttc

Hiragino Sans GB W6.ttc

Keyboard.ttf

LastResort.ttf

LucidaGrande.ttc

Monaco.dfont

Noteworthy.ttc

PingFang.ttc

SFNSDisplay-Black.otf

SFNSDisplay-Bold.otf

SFNSDisplay-Heavy.otf

SFNSDisplay-Light.otf

SFNSDisplay-Medium.otf

SFNSDisplay-Regular.otf

SFNSDisplay-Semibold.otf

SFNSDisplay-Thin.otf

SFNSDisplay-Ultralight.otf

SFNSText-Bold.otf

SFNSText-BoldG1.otf

SFNSText-BoldG2.otf

SFNSText-BoldG3.otf

SFNSText-BoldItalic.otf

SFNSText-BoldItalicG1.otf

SFNSText-BoldItalicG2.otf

SFNSText-BoldItalicG3.otf

SFNSText-Heavy.otf

SFNSText-HeavyItalic.otf

SFNSText-Light.otf

SFNSText-LightItalic.otf

SFNSText-Medium.otf

SFNSText-MediumItalic.otf

SFNSText-Regular.otf

SFNSText-RegularG1.otf

SFNSText-RegularG2.otf

SFNSText-RegularG3.otf

SFNSText-RegularItalic.otf

SFNSText-RegularItalicG1.otf

SFNSText-RegularItalicG2.otf

SFNSText-RegularItalicG3.otf

SFNSText-Semibold.otf

SFNSText-SemiboldItalic.otf

Symbol.ttf

Times.dfont

TimesLTMM

ZapfDingbats.ttf

ヒラギノ明朝 ProN W3.ttc

ヒラギノ明朝 ProN W6.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W0.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W1.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W2.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W3.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W4.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W5.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W6.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W7.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W8.ttc

ヒラギノ角ゴシック W9.ttc


Library > Fonts


Andale Mono.ttf

Apple Chancery.ttf

AppleGothic.ttf

Arial Bold Italic.ttf

Arial Bold.ttf

Arial Italic.ttf

Arial Unicode.ttf

Arial.ttf

Calibri Bold Italic.ttf

Calibri Bold.ttf

Calibri Italic.ttf

Calibri.ttf

Chalkboard.ttc

ChalkboardSE.ttc

Courier New Bold Italic.ttf

Courier New Bold.ttf

Courier New Italic.ttf

Courier New.ttf

Georgia Bold Italic.ttf

Georgia Bold.ttf

Georgia Italic.ttf

Georgia.ttf

GillSans.ttc

Lucida Sans

Lucida Sans Unicode.ttf

Microsoft Sans Serif.ttf

MS Reference Sans Serif.ttf

MT Extra

News Gothic MT

NISC18030.ttf

STIXGeneral.otf

STIXGeneralBol.otf

STIXGeneralBolIta.otf

STIXGeneralItalic.otf

STIXIntDBol.otf

STIXIntDReg.otf

STIXIntSmBol.otf

STIXIntSmReg.otf

STIXIntUpBol.otf

STIXIntUpDBol.otf

STIXIntUpDReg.otf

STIXIntUpReg.otf

STIXIntUpSmBol.otf

STIXIntUpSmReg.otf

STIXNonUni.otf

STIXNonUniBol.otf

STIXNonUniBolIta.otf

STIXNonUniIta.otf

STIXSizFiveSymReg.otf

STIXSizFourSymBol.otf

STIXSizFourSymReg.otf

STIXSizOneSymBol.otf

STIXSizOneSymReg.otf

STIXSizThreeSymBol.otf

STIXSizThreeSymReg.otf

STIXSizTwoSymBol.otf

STIXSizTwoSymReg.otf

STIXVar.otf

STIXVarBol.otf

Tahoma Bold.ttf

Tahoma.ttf

Times New Roman Bold Italic.ttf

Times New Roman Bold.ttf

Times New Roman Italic.ttf

Times New Roman.ttf

Trebuchet MS Bold Italic.ttf

Trebuchet MS Bold.ttf

Trebuchet MS Italic.ttf

Trebuchet MS.ttf

Verdana Bold Italic.ttf

Verdana Bold.ttf

Verdana Italic.ttf

Verdana.ttf

Webdings.ttf

Wingdings 2.ttf

Wingdings 3.ttf

Wingdings.ttf

Zapfino.ttf

Tired of El Capitan Font Issues

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