Aperture to What?

I totally agree with you on the whole interface thing. They have always been really awful in that sense I don't know why, I mean is not that hard to do something a bit more respectable.

You are running the Aperture Trial installer, right? This will install Aperture 3.1, and that is incompatible. You could then try to install updates from Apple's Support page, but they will only take you to Aperture 3.4.3.

The aperture versions, that require a registration key are no longer supported for updating at all.

All later updates are only available, if you have an App Store version of Aperture installed, not the Apple Store version, that requires a registration key.

It was possible to convert the licence to an AppStore licence, when MacOS X Mavericks was released. You missed that window of opportunity unfortunately. Now it is too late, because Apple stopped the developement of Aperture and only reinstalling AppStore versions is supported.

Your only chance is to contact the App Store Support and talk them into providing a redeem code for an Aperture 3.6 download, to be able to update. This will not be easy. In some cases the AppStore support helped.

Yes… to my dismay is what I saw after reading your previous post with attention and also some other posts. I'll see what I can do, thanx anyway for the advices mate, cheers!

If you want other photo programs similar to Aperture you can test drive Affinity Photo Pro or DxO OpticsPro10. Both are good programs. Not hard to use and have good communities to get answers for problems or issues.

As neither app is a Digital Asset Manager they're hardly similar to Aperture... though excellent programs they may be.

I agree that neither is as good as Aperture for DAM. But looking at the final product of a picture (after using either of these two programs), and ease of use, those are both good programs and certainly as good a picture as developed by Aperture.

I agree that a better organizer would be fantastic but for now not optimized by either program.

Some of the other programs suggested by Rob Gendreau are good but are lacking in developing the photos. Capture 1 is certainly a very good program but not cheap.

I wish someone would buy the rights to Aperture and keep it going.

The point is that neither of these are a replacement for Aperture. They're applications from a different category. At best the replace (and even improve on) about half of what Aperture does.

I have to ask, what other programs you would find that would be equivalent to Aperture. I would leave LlightRoom off the list (for me). I am interested as I am now going to change to another program from Aperture (and have decided against LightRoom already). I have looked at a number of different programs and agree none of them are Aperture. Photos will not be adequate for me. I hate to spend money on both an photo organizer program and a photo manipulator program but I suspect it could be an option. I would appreciate any suggestions.

You just defined the answer to avoid the obvious conclusion. LR is the nearest equivalent, mix of non-destructive processing and DAM. Note I said nearest equivalent not perfect match. Now it's difficult to compare. Aperture stagnated over the final three years - that's four years now, pretty much - so LR has powered ahead in terms of it's image processing. In Asset management terms it's weaker in some areas but stronger in others. As for alternatives, and their strengths and weaknesses, search the forum on Capture One, DarkTable et al. There's lost of comment on those from folks who've changed to them.

Thanks. But I have had strong aversions to LR. Although there have been some significant improvements in LR with the 6th edition, I still felt Aperture produced better end photos (and simpler to use) in spite of Apertures stagnation. The monthly bill (for LR) is tempting knowing you get updates that you do not pay extra for. I will give another good look at Capture 1, PhotoFXlab, DxO Optics Pro 10, and Affinity Pro; and if need be, also consider a DAM program. Maybe a miracle will occur and Aperture will get new life if some respectable programers/photographers take it over. And I will look at comments from people who have switched from Aperture. I am saddened that Apple has let such a good program go by the wayside.

Other candidates are Capture One, Photos Supreme, Dark Table, Aftershot Pro, Mylio, Emulsion, Lyn, etc etc. Some more like browsers; some more like Aperture.

I am having good luck with Lyn. Lyn is the ONLY program I found that is capable of showing Keywords, (or other metadata) under the thumbnails. I got used to this capability with earlier versions of iPhoto and all versions of Aperture. Something I cannot live without.

I am in no way affiliated with Lyn, just a customer.

Thanks. I appreciate your suggestion.

I have a 1 TB-plus library, about 80K photos.

I am looking for something which preserves all adjustments I've made.

So far only Apple's Photos seems to be capable of that.

Hope I'm wrong about that. Photos is so light weight that my hope of developers coming to the rescue with extensions doesn't look like it's going to become a serious alternative.

In the meantime I'll use Aperture for a few more years (and keep the Mac on El Cap), begin the process of exporting all photos to TIFFs, then look at Lightroom (or Photos, if it's matured into a decent "prosumer" app).

Photos is so light weight that my hope of developers coming to the rescue with extensions doesn't look like it's going to become a serious alternative.

There is a new extension which functions like the old External Editor which might make a big difference - you can now use an editor as an external with Photos.

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/external-editors-for-photos/id1074021862?mt=12

Terence, I'm intrigued.

I've never used an external editor (I don't even know what one is).

I guessing this would allow one to edit, through Photos, in Aperture and the adjustments, location data etc. are saved in Photos?

What happens when OS X doesn't support Aperture any more? Would I have to sit on El Capitain?