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Is it just me or is voice to text getting worse?

Maybe 18 months to 2 years ago I can remember using voice to text and feeling like it translated 90 to 95% of my sentences correctly. Now, when I dictate a sentence, it is very rare for voice to text to translate it correctly. One of the things I've noticed is voice to text will add pronouns my sentences when I haven't said anything. At first I thought maybe I was making little noises that the program was misinterpreting as pronouns, but I have since noticed that it does this even when I'm absolutely sure I haven't made a noise. I think that what's happening is the program will hear a dependent clause and want to make it an independent clause with this subject a verb and a direct object and so add the pronoun either as a subject or direct object. I wonder if the software designers at Apple are doing this on purpose, not to frustrate users, but because they think most people are using it to write simple, declarative sentences.


Also, voice to text will just capitalize random words, especially conjunctions, For no reason I can discern. It just did it!


PS this happens across devices, from my iPhone, to my iPad, To my computer. There's that capitalization bug you again. Also, I swear to God, it just added "you" for no reason.

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014), iOS 9.2.1

Posted on Feb 1, 2016 8:13 AM

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017 1:30 AM

How very Microsoft to question the clarity of @budwhite’s own voice here! (it-can’t-be-our-software-because-it’s-brilliant etc)


Please at least acknowledge that 30 people have now said “me too” having somehow found their way to this “misplaced” thread. It’s not an easy issue to describe and search for either.


And I know many others who will never get this far, but keep asking me why dictation and predictive text are getting LESS accurate and more frustrating.


Add to that the sudden Random capital letters that appear, and the fact that it’s getting harder to rediscover the letters of the (correct) word typed in (after predictive text has changed it to, say, two words, or capitalised an earlier word in the sentence) and you surely have something that should worry Apple. Is this AI at work? Because it doesn’t augur well for the future if so!


Both dictation and predictive text are definitely getting WORSE not better with each iOS update.


Another thread about the same issue:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8087600?start=0&tstart=0

Also:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4c60gj/autocorrec t_getting_worse/

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Jan 18, 2018 12:42 AM in response to Budwhite

I experienced the same issues after purchasing my iPhone 7 Plus.


I’ve been playing around with my friends phone and it works way better than my Apple devices translations.


Our IP I experienced the same issues after purchasing my iPhone 7 Plus.


I’ve been playing around with my friends phone and it works way better than my Apple devices translations.


RIP Apple


Hello Android


I am one of 1 billion people and what I have to say really doesn’t matter to Apple. But I will admit that I will not purchase garbage anymore. These phones are way too expensive for that. A thousand dollars!

Jan 18, 2018 10:31 PM in response to Budwhite

Oh absolutely it has gotten worse. This is one of my biggest complaints with the iPhone. I have a 7+ and after 18 months it doesn't even translate correctly. If I am texting somebody and say meet me at 10 o'clock, all of a sudden I love this person and they're going to be at my house at four for some fun. With Apple's credibility regarding the batteries on the prior model phones, I'm sure there's something going to be disclosed about the microphone too.

Jan 26, 2018 3:48 AM in response to Budwhite

It doesn't matter if the problem is on desktop or iPhone. I suspect it's the Siri servers or algo that has become totally useless over time. It's the same service.


Seriously iPhone 6s here and have used it to set alarms each night with no problems. Suddenly i can't get it to work anymore. It guesses the most random things. It's completely useless now. What is going on Apple?

Jan 27, 2018 5:26 PM in response to Budwhite

I KNOW for a fact the dictation on this SE is worse than on the 5C I got four years ago. Just got an SE in October 2017. This newer phone is dumber than the old one. It’s frustrating to use dictation, even though it’s much more officiant, because it makes so many mistakes.


Instead of recognizing some words with several syllables, this phone substitutes 3-4 small words that don’t make any sense together. Whenever I dictate a plural word, this phone always spells it with an apostrophe plus letter s (“‘s”). It rephrases perfectly good sentences so they don’t make sense, changes perfectly good words into other ones, and capitalizes words in the middle of sentences for no rhyme or reason. It’s as if Siri fancies herself an English teacher, always wants to correct me, but her corrections are wrong. I was an English major, and her understanding of spelling and grammar is elementary school level at best.


This is a more expensive phone than my last one. I would think the functions with higher tech iPhones would get better, not worse!

Jan 27, 2018 6:25 PM in response to SallyMJ

Yes it’s horrible; in fact I have given up trying to use it except for very short messages. Not only does it fail to understand my speech (and I use other programs that understand me quite well) but after I get it all set up and press “send”, it changes the text in a byzantine way, even adding profanity! One thing several people have mentioned, the appearance of a capital where it doesn’t belong, is caused when the microphone shuts itself off and you have to restart it, the first letter is always capitalized. After I have dictated this note I cannot scroll back to edit it. Come on Apple— you’re supposed to be an industry leader!

Feb 15, 2018 10:07 AM in response to Budwhite

I have the capitalization problem in spades. It seems to capitalize as a response to taking the time to breathe. It also De- capitalizes on occasion, and the most maddening thing is that it will read write stuff that's perfect just as I hit send. Sometimes the language isn't even allowed on TV.


So how do we get Apple's attention on this? I saw that thank you for it, but I never saw the instructions. Thanks

Feb 15, 2018 11:58 AM in response to jacquifromNY

At least part of the unwanted capitalizations occur when the microphone is turned off and then restarted. If you have inadvertently put in a period where you don’t want it, the next letter is capitalized but if you then delete the period, sometimes, and I do mean sometimes, the capitalization is reversed. Other than that I don’t know what causes that.

I have mentioned in a previous conversation the intentional text last-minute change to an unintended and often profanity laden substitute which is sent Before you can re-edit.


I am currently using a $10 program called “Active Voice” which pretty close to verbatim-translates your voice into text which. You can then paste into your email or whatever. The problem with that program is that you don’t see the text being actually transcribed until you finish talking, but the good news is that you don’t have to edit very much.

Feb 19, 2018 7:15 AM in response to Budwhite

I’ve been using dictation for years and lately it’s been so bad I have to tell you! there isn’t an example, I will leave the air I said error into this previous The previous four words were put in after I had dictated was correct, it overwrites what he thinks should be there. This must be a machine learning but who’s the teacher? Machine taking over

Feb 19, 2018 9:54 AM in response to g bruce

I haven't quite figured out what the voice to text algorithm does, but it's clearly not solely based on word to word translation. It's trying to do something like guess the context of a sentence or phrase and make sense in its own little dictionary, which as often as not isn't even close to the meaning intended. The biggest mystery to me is why corrected text is changed at the last minute, just before it is sent, Into a baroque and profane jargon, so you can’t edit it. This is such an obvious bug that you would think Apple would notice it and eliminate it. But they haven't and they didn't. The other thing that puzzles me about Apple is that even if they choose not to reply to the user discussions, at the very least they ought to let you know that they're

reacting to them. This is not like a company that prided itself on customer relationships.

Mar 11, 2018 2:18 PM in response to Idon't

Yes, it’s hard to understand why Apple, who prides itself on customer relationships, has gone completely dead on this issue. They don’t even acknowledge complaints like these. I’ve had to rely on a paid app which accepts my dictation pretty much verbatim, and then copy it onto message or email. It is beginning to look as though Apple, like so many of its predecessors, has gotten too big for its britches.


Sent from my iPhone

Matt Cushing

Mar 11, 2018 2:40 PM in response to mattcushing26

mattcushing26 wrote:


Yes, it’s hard to understand why Apple, who prides itself on customer relationships, has gone completely dead on this issue. They don’t even acknowledge complaints like these. I’ve had to rely on a paid app which accepts my dictation pretty much verbatim, and then copy it onto message or email. It is beginning to look as though Apple, like so many of its predecessors, has gotten too big for its britches.

This is a user-to-user forum. Apple is quite explicit in the Terms of Use to which we all agreed when we signed up that their participation here is minimal. If you want to discuss the matter with Apple directly, use the Contact Support link at the top right of every page of these forums.

Mar 15, 2018 6:05 PM in response to AIMZulu

Before you give up try an app that does translate well and then just copy the text over. have tried three: Active voice (fair). speech to text (fair) and currently, Just Press Record.

None is very good. The latest one gets 95% accuracy, but in none of these can you see the translation until you are thru dictating, a design flaw. Many of these have a reasonably low price.

Apr 9, 2018 4:48 PM in response to Budwhite

I switched to iOS into thousand and one due to a stroke and I’ve always used dictation for communication I have used several dictation programs they had problems with learning this latest update to iOS 11 has made it useless. When I get to it shows the right words and then change it to garbage including swearing words. I don’t know how many emails I’ve sent out that of been corrected from the computer after it was sent. They’ve also removed you used to be able to swipe up to highlight the whole page and have it read to you. Apple used to be interested in excess ability. You’re certainly not looking after us know it all

Is it just me or is voice to text getting worse?

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