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Upgrading SSD for Mid-2009 Macbook Pro

What are my options for upgrading to an SSD for my Mid-2009 Macbook Pro?


I've ran into a lot of information that involves the link speeds of 3 gb/s being negotiated to 1.5 gb/s (mine is currently the original HDD and the link speed is being negotiated to 1.5 gb/s)... so I was looking for an SSD that would be 3 GB/s (with an updated firmware driver to make sure it is so).


What are my options, and what would be compatible with my macbook pro? I wanted to also stick the original HDD into the optical drive and use it for backup and media data.


So far I have checked out a few, and I am not sure if all of these listed will be compatible with my mac:


Mac SM0412G PCIe 500 GB speed rank 10th/734

Evo Pro?

+++++Samsung 850 Evo Pro

+++++Samsung 840 Evo Pro 120 GB = $75, 250 GB $100-105@slickdeals, 500 GB = $200-210 -- speed rank 220th/770


+++++Crucial MX-200 250 GB $100, 500 GB = $180 -- speed rank 217th/770, 1TB = $350


PNY CL4111 240 GB = $65


+OWC Mercury Extreme Pro -- link speed 3 gb/s ?


++++++OCZ Vector 150 120 GB = $55, 240 GB = $125-140, 480 GB = $220 -- speed rank 46th/770 -- link speed 3 gb/s

---works on my mac?----


Crucial BX-200 240 GB = $65, 480 GB = $130, 960 GB - $300, 1 TB - $350 -- speed rank 391st/770


-Seagate XT500 hybrid -- link speed 3 gb/s

--Seagate Momentus XT 500 SataII 32 Mb Cache, 7200 rpm Hybrid SSD with jumper cable


Western Digital?

Samsung?

Intel?


Any ideas?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), null

Posted on Feb 6, 2016 3:26 PM

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Feb 6, 2016 5:54 PM in response to theMuzzl3

SSD alone may let you run ElCapitan efficiently.


RAM is working space, like a larger desk. True ... more RAM does let you perform more tasks at the same time. When the RAM is insufficient to execute all tasks, OSX puts some of the RAM contents into a "swapfile" on the disk temporarily. Slow HD transfer rates make this swapfile a chokepoint so yo go for the fastest HD you can get (7200 spin is fast and inexpensive, 10000 spin is faster but expensive).


SSDs are changing that. Swapfile transfer with SSD is so fast that swapfile is no longer the chokepoint. Some people have tested and found that SSD-replacing-HD is almost if not slightly more gain than more RAM.


Both, though, makes for a much greater gain.

Feb 6, 2016 6:27 PM in response to steve359

yeah -- I've noticed a HUGE difference now that I doubled my RAM.


One guy said he ran el capitan on a mid 2009 mbp, and that after a couple of months, he went back to 10.6.8. It may be better since their last update in December, but I am thinking I'll stick with 10.6.8 as long as I can... I am guessing that eventually, my Opera browser will stop working, as did Safari. Mozilla already became blazingly slow, but it still runs... as does Chrome.

Feb 6, 2016 6:40 PM in response to KimUserName

KimUserName, would that AGPtek run as fast as the OWC data doubler? I'm guessing it wouldn't be that big of a deal since my stock HDD can only run up to 3 gb/s SATA speeds. I noticed that the ones that support firewire would be as fast as 800 mb/s, and the usb ones would be MUCH slower (since I only have USB 2.0). Is there a good way to upgrade my macbook pro to be USB 3.0?


If I could avoid paying for the external drive case or USB to SATA cable, it would be ideal since I am on a limited budget. I wonder if I could install the new SSD into the optical bay and then do the cloning... make sure it boots okay from the SSD, and then switch the SSD to the 7" drive bay and the old HDD over to the optical bay. Do you recommend that, or do you think that would cause issues? Guessing by what you said, I am thinking maybe there might be issues with that method... but $50 spent just to use the darn thing once is crazy! Maybe, I will return it after using it... lol.

Feb 17, 2016 5:28 PM in response to theMuzzl3

Hi again TheMuzzl3:


Yes either AGPtek or OWC data doubler would work. As far as I know they are just connectors, there is no software or firmware involved.

I am using the AGPtek and have not noticed any speed issues with it.

Firewire is faster than USB 2, but I don't know of any way to upgrade your computer to USB 3.


I wonder if I could install the new SSD into the optical bay and then do the cloning... make sure it boots okay from the SSD, and then switch the SSD to the 7" drive bay and the old HDD over to the optical bay. Do you recommend that, or do you think that would cause issues?


You could probably install the SSD in the optical bay to do the cloning, but you would need the data doubler.

I would personally not do that, but you could try it.


What you could do is buy the external case, clone your drive to SSD and then install the old HD in the external case instead of the optical bay.

That would save you from buying the data doubler.


I guess another way to look at it is, if you were to invest in a newer faster Mac, it would cost quite a bit $$$

However, replacing the HD with an SSD will increase the performance of your existing computer by quite a bit.

I guess you have to decide yourself.

Feb 17, 2016 5:39 PM in response to KimUserName

Thanks again KimUserName.


Is there any advantage to going with the EVO 850 instead of the EVO 840?


Also, why would I need the data doubler instead of the AGPTek for cloning the drive using the method above? What are the advantages of having the data doubler instead of the AGPTek caddy or any cheap/generic caddy, and why?


I was looking at this $7 one, for example:

http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Unibody-MacBook-SuperDrive-Replacement/dp/B0058AH2US /ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41HVpNsjquL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160% 2C160_&refRID=003EBRDVGJAXMMFEEG6C


I was also wondering if a USB 3.0 to SATA cable like in the link below is backwards compatible with USB 2.0, all though I will probably look for a firewire one for faster speeds:


http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-SATA-Drive-Adapter-Cable/dp/B00HJZJI84/ref=pd_bxg y_147_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1MEPDSVEA02REPS8H4D2


I was also wondering if you think a Super Slim USB SATA External Slot in DVD Burner Case is a good idea for keeping the ability to read/write DVD's and also use it to put the install disc 2 for os x 10.6 for purposes of running apple hardware check:


http://www.amazon.com/Super-Slim-SATA-External-Burner/dp/B005RFOJT6/ref=pd_bxgy_ 147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0M7NX8T6TKJPXHH6EBX3

Feb 18, 2016 3:34 AM in response to theMuzzl3

User uploaded file

The Samsung EVO 850 is a newer drive. It replaces the EVO 840. Also I would think the EVO 850 would be more compatible. http://www.custompcguide.net/compare-samsung-850-pro-versus-840-evo-and-840-ssd- series/


User uploaded file

I have never used this cable, but in general USB3 is backward compatible with USB2.


User uploaded file

I have heard that there were some issues using apple optical drives in cases. An external USB optical drive will work fine, but you may have problems with the apple one, but I guess for $11 you could certainly try.

Feb 18, 2016 7:17 AM in response to KimUserName

Thanks again KimUserName. You are great!


I bought a caddy a a nylon pry tool for the installation.


I haven't fully decided on a drive yet. I was considering a SSHD for more storage/cheaper option... but I'm about 85% decided on the EVO 850, thanks to you and some others.


I explained on reddit something that I recently read:


["The key is how much data passes under the head in a given time period, this is affected by at least 2 things, density of data, and the speed with which it passes under the head, 7200 rpm drives are roughly 33% faster so 33% more data passes in any given time period. The Areal Density of a single platter 1tb drive is 100% greater than a 500G, easily overcoming the 33%speed increase of a 7200 rpm drive over a 5400 rpm drive. A 750G drive has 150% of the Areal density of a 500G, so it also would be faster regardless of the rotational speed increase from 5400 to 7200."

So, basically thats saying a 1 TB drive will be twice as fast as my 500 GB HDD if they are both 5400 RPM's... but a 7200 RPM, 500 GB HDD or SSHD will only increase it by 133% if the SATA link speeds are the same.

I am still not sure how this applies or compares to the fact that I get 1.5 GB/s negotiated SATA link speeds with my current HDD and can get 3 GB/s with a different drive (either SSD or HDD).]


Reddit link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/46dw3g/options_for_upgrading_drives_for_mi d2009_mbp/


With that considered, an SDD still seems like a longer lasting, more safe, and faster option (but I am not sure how much faster it a 500 GB SSD would be [with 3.0 GB/s SATA link speed], compared to a 1 TB, 2 TB, or 3 TB HDD or SSHD [also with 3.0 GB/s SATA speed]). Also, I've been reading that an SSD will mostly only effect the booting speed and application opening speeds -- where as what I really want is more speed while running ableton live with many VST's and audio files open/playing. I'm assuming that keeping my audio files on the secondary HDD would kind of defeat the purpose of having the SSD speeds, all though I've read in ableton forums that using multiple drives works great for this purpose (more so for targeting files that are being recorded to be written to the secondary drive, which they say should preferably be 72,000 RPM's -- so it looks like I might want to buy two new drives since the stock one is 5,400 RPM's).


Since I already upgraded to 8 GB of RAM, I am thinking the only thing that would truly help my cause is a newer computer (with a faster CPU).


What do you think?


I've got a little under $300 to spend, so a 500 GB SSD would be the most I can go with that... or else I'd get a 1 TB SSD.

Feb 18, 2016 7:35 AM in response to KimUserName

Also, I was considering installing OS X onto the new SSD as a fresh install, as I feel that my current OS X may be not working as well as it could due to some issues I caused at some point by installing stuff.


Would copying over the applications, libraries/application support, libraries/audio/plugins folders be sufficient? Or, is copying the entire drive my only reasonable option for keeping all of my VST plugins and applications without fresh installations? A wild guess is that I'll have to either reinstall everything or copy the whole darned thing with CCC.

Upgrading SSD for Mid-2009 Macbook Pro

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