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Is there a WPS button on an iPhone

Does the iphone have push button WIFI (WPS)? Because I really want a IPhone!!

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Posted on Feb 18, 2016 3:20 PM

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Dec 17, 2017 5:19 PM in response to dontbyte

dontbyte wrote:


Perhaps Apple needs additional advisors from its client base. Beta iOS 11 nearly killed my phone! for example. Argh! :(

Beta software is not meant for the end user. It's a development phase software release. Its expected it will have issues, and you would be dumb to even consider installing it on a device you rely on on a daily basis.


Apple makes it abundantly clear, the Beta can and will have issues, and being in a test phase, its delivered as is and has no real support. If you fail to understand that, then that's on you. Apple cannot and will not babysit every user that decides they want a beta without understanding what it means.


Beta software is not a way to get iOS early. It's a way to test for bugs and issues on a wide enough pool. You are expected to have a certain level of computer knowledge to be messing around with Beta software. You being Reckless is not Apple's responsibility.


But I'm not sure what Beta has to to do with not providing WPS support at all?

Dec 18, 2017 11:32 AM in response to Phil0124

Hello. :)

My circumstances weren’t any of the dumb or worst case scenarios you mention. Still, those are good to know. Thank you.


To response & answer your question about what any of that has to do with WPS: Initially, it didn’t.


But, when a forum member began basically saying the flawed nature of the WPS specification was the reason for not implementing it into the iPhone product, I spoke more generally that {a} that’s not a legitimate reason to obstruct the desires and expectations of a customer base (although I’m paraphrasing and not fully developing the more muted aspects of complex generally accepted product development decisions as they may occur) and {b} there is much objective evidence that Apple has “incomplete” &or “rudimentary” implementations of several features & feature components in its current production products — never mind Beta. Production iOS and iPhone hardware has deficits, where I’m defining deficits as “software components &or specific features are absent; incomplete ; or comparatively rudimentary.”


So, I rather attribute Apple having not implemented WPS [or other features I won’t cite right now] as a function of they having too much on their plate to fund or add into a production cycle (where I’m giving Apple that benefit if in doubt) instead of my incorrectly blurting out “Apple doesn’t have the capability to do it.” I know saying Apple can’t do it is plainly incorrectly. Apple has shown it’s a very technically excellent company and possesses many of the very brightest and most intelligent minds in the known universe!

So I’m not saying it can’t. That’s wrong and would be ignorant.

I was saying Apple has too much on its plate. Which I do believe is correct.


Whereas, suggesting Apple diaapponted customers and made connecting to a work more difficult (ie lacks WPS) because WPS ***** ... didn’t wash with me.



But, I was mixing topics.

I mentioned Beta iOS 11 because I specifically loaded iOS 11 on an iPhone in advance of its general release because I wanted to see whether the customization capcilty of the “Control Center” would be vastly improved over iOS 10 because the former wasn’t meeting my expectations (but does on Android). In Beta iOS 11 it didn’t either. To my disappointment. And didn’t in the production iOS 11 either.


At the time my primary phone was an Android, so no the iPhone running Beta iOS 11 wasn’t my primary phone. It was loaded for a sneak preview.


However, I want to restate (repeat) I LOVE APPLE COMPUTERS. and the company.


SPECIFICALLY, I chose a very joyous, happy, fulfilling, and at times arduous career in computing sciences, and other related scientific & technological pursuits BECAUSE I WAS IMPRINTED UPON APPLE, and learned fully why Apple products in 1980 and onward were indeed superior to whatever was available a that time. Apple was the greatest! :)

And, in the decades between then and today, Apple has repeatedly shone its greatness and lead the field and delivered superior products, and is deserving of many praises!


So, I’m not bashing Apple for the sake of disrespecting it.


Rather, I went to Android about three years ago because I couldn’t afford a new iPhone. And, I vowed my next phone would be a return to Apple and iOS , because I disliked Android for many technical and philosophical reasons that I won’t bore you with here. But, I began to like some aspects of it: especially many applications. But, my love is iOS and Apple. And I wanted to return to a product provided by a company I admire.


YET! When I did return to an iOS based phone after approx. three years, I’ve been deeply disappointed by the lack of progress iOS has made relative to Apple’s trajectory at the time I took a pause from using their products!

And, I’ve been deeply disappointed by the lack of iOS service capabilities provided to application developers in comparison to what Apple could have done (when I use my knowledge and my informed imagination ) relative to where I imagined Apple could have already been during the past three years.


I won’t detail it all. This isn’t intended to be a blog! LMAO.

So, I’ll say simply : I loaded iOS 11 Beta on an iPhone to personally assess the maturity level of several other aspects and feature capabilities (including Accessibility, and elsewhere) of the iPhone in areas (not only the Control Center) that I know technically Apple can implement particular features. (As I say I’m not getting into it all here).


Suffice it to say, Apple has several “rudimentary”, “incomplete” and/or “not fully realized” feature sets.


And that disappoints greatly.


And, that’s why the above and an iceberg of other analysis and evaluation I did of what Apple iOS offers now in comparison to what iOS offered three years ago didn’t live up to its full potential !


So, sure I didn’t expound upon any of the above when I yipped begrudgingly about iOS 11 Beta.


But, Nevertheless, what I see in iOS 11 Production and what I saw in iOS 11 Beta in comparison to the potential I saw when I last looked an iPhone three years ago Does Affirm My Assertion That Apple hasn’t lived up to its full potential in the between time.


And, instead of writing a book, I initially simply stated “Apple has too much on its plate.”


And, I didn’t support the positional statement that Apple doesn’t offer WPS because the public specification is insecure and “bad” because it seemed an attempt to deflect attention from and an examination of what Apple could have done these past three years.


And, of course no one wants to utter one syllable of objection , because otherwise someone is opposed to Apple. I know.


But, I’m not bashing Apple.

And I’m not being disparaging for the sake of trolling or for being pro Android. I’m not. I rather the whole world ran iOS.


I’M SIMPLY SAYING I KNOW BETTER THAN TO BUY INTO AN EXCUSE, whenever there is an actual reason.


I’ll say nothing more until 2018, and maybe not even in January! LMAO.


Merry Christmas, Everyone.

Peace Be With Each of You. Peace.

Dec 18, 2017 12:10 PM in response to dontbyte

Sure, yet in 9 years of continuous development and 11 major versions of iOS (it was iPhone OS the first year), Apple has steadfastly not included WPS in iOS wifi connection settings or options. But your logical conclusion is that they just haven’t gotten to it yet? That’s supposedly more rational than concluding they deliberately exclude it, always have, and continue to do so with every single iOS update. 😕


OS X, btw, also does not support WPS.


Airport utility did support WPS (don’t know if it still does as the only airport I ever owned is the wifi+dialup modem gray space ship model, which I still have somewhere) for connecting peripherals to an airport base station. So the decisions to exclude it in iOS and OS X was and is clearly a deliberate design decision.

Dec 18, 2017 12:23 PM in response to Michael Black

Darn! I guess my second guess was right after all. “ They can’t do it.” ;)


lol



And I love to laugh!, heartedly!


Ho Ho Ho. Merry Christmas.



I can’t be silent, yet counterpoint.

So, have your fill this month.


I’ll post my product ideas when I return in January.


Maybe you’ll be impressed or want to run with them? or not?! We’ll chat more after the new year.


Cheers

:)

Dec 18, 2017 12:48 PM in response to dontbyte

dontbyte wrote:



I’ll post my product ideas when I return in January.


Maybe you’ll be impressed or want to run with them? or not?! We’ll chat more after the new year.


Cheers

🙂

No one here would be running with your ideas. This is a user to user technical support forum. Apple is not here, and we have no say in what they do since we are just users like you.


Cheers,


GB

Feb 18, 2016 3:23 PM in response to Jbrown

Push button wi-fi? Not sure what you are referring to, unless you mean connection to a particular network. All you need to do to connect is turn on Wi-Fi, select the network, and tap on join. If it is password protected, you need to enter the password.


EDIT: Thanks Phil, I thought that was what it was referring to, but wasn't exactly sure.

Feb 19, 2016 1:57 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

What i mean by push button wifi is.. WPS push button all you have to do is push the button and it will connect without you putting in the password. I have a Ipad and Ipod but it does not have that option like the Android (because i have a Android phone). I tried putting in the password in but it still will not work. I want to know this because i will be getting a upgrade this year and i really want a iphone. But my my internet is WPA-2 (AES).

May 3, 2016 2:05 PM in response to Jbrown

J brown, unfortunately most people here may not know what a WPS (WiFi Protected Setup) button is on a Wi-Fi router. This button when pressed gives you the ability to connect your device without having to enter the password to the WiFi router. Most Droid devices and newer laptops have the ability to connect to a WPS enabled router.


Since this standard has been around for a long time I am not sure why apple is not introduce that feature in their device.

May 3, 2016 2:34 PM in response to Jsibauste

Probably because the wifi protected setup standard is a horrible and largely piointless security standard. It has been shown since 2011 to be easily hacked by simple brute force methods. Many router manufacturers with devices which use it have themselves had notices that it should be disabled and strong password WPA2 encryption used instead.


Apple has a long history of not supporting such non-secure convenience "security" settings and standards. WPS needs to just go away - it is inherently NOT secure.

May 3, 2016 3:37 PM in response to Jbrown

jbrown - as Michael Black said, check the router settings. It may require your phone's wifi address to be entered in a table for access. Also, unless you have tried entering the password many times already, you may have made a typo. Try putting the password into Notes first, then you can check it there. Copy it in Notes, and paste when requested.

May 3, 2016 3:47 PM in response to Michael Black

That is just nonsense. Most high-end WiFi enabled home routers and gateways have this additional feature. It is not an either or. All newer ones have strong WPA2 encryption and in addition, they allow the owners to use the WPS button to connect their devices at their own discretion.


From my Verizon hotspot to my Netgear router and several others that I own, to the latest AT&T WiFi router they setup today for me and most devices, including WiFi enabled printers, tablets, etc, include this feature. Nobody is moving away, they are actually incorporating it more and more. Again, this is an additional feature included with the devices.


I am not sure why Apple has not included this feature because it is used at the "owners discretion". Those who want to use it can use it, and those who don't can enter the password for their WiFi.


Recently, my brother changed routers and he had problems entering the password on an iPhone 5. The router's password was too long for the space given in the iPhone but he just told me after numerous tries he was able to enter it. Sometimes when selecting the wrong encryption, the password lengths may be different.

May 3, 2016 3:53 PM in response to Jsibauste

No it is not nonsense. The latest router I got from AT&T does not support WPS and it doesn't take too much Google time to determine how poor the security is on WPS and no one has updated it. I just read a review yesterday on a new high dollar modem/router and the reviewer specifically commented on the fact that this is the 3rd unit he had received that did not have WPS. But since you are using an Android phone the WPS is not your weakest link anyway.


You can send feedback to Apple here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html but I seriously doubt we will ever see the current iteration of WPS on their routers, computers or iDevices.

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