Is there a WPS button on an iPhone

Yes, I read all of that, I noted the date and I know when he left Apple. He was not involved at all with any Apple products other than WiFi on the iPhone. The original iPhone released in 2007 DID NOT support WPS. He was not involved with any other Apple products such as Macs, Airport, etc. and would not know whether they supported WPS or not (they didn't). He doesn't have any special insight into any subsequent iPhones and had no involvement with the iPad. And nothing he says within his answer says anything different. Since you could find his article it shouldn't take too much work on your part to find out about the insecurities of WPS that have already been referenced here. Or you can keep reposting this and look like a fool.

Yes, I read the Quora discussion when you first posted the link. And, no, nothing there gives me any particular reason to trust the source.

Well it doesn't affect me whether you think I look like a fool or not but the facts are there. I am aware of the network insecurities, nevertheless WPS is only a feature in devices and not the only option and can be easily disabled but I understand in some ways why Apple would not want to give this option to their users. This may be too complicated and may not want to upset their users with options 😝. By the way, I have an iPad that I like very much.

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/27918/hacking/wi-fi-wps-hacking.html

No, the facts are NOT contained in the article you keep pushing. The facts are that Apple chose never to support WPS on any of their devices. Anyone who wants them to can send feedback but given the amount of time that has passed and the lack of support for WPS (as to updating the security) I don't see that ever happening.

Jsibauste wrote:

Well it doesn't affect me whether you think I look like a fool or not but the facts are there.

I never said i thought you looked like a fool. I merely pointed out that a few random people answering a question on Quora doesn't constitute quality evidence of anything. I could post here, that based on my extensive experience in an important position in the cellular industry, the reason that Apple never included WPS on the iPhone was because the major U.S. carriers objected to it, believing it would decrease their profits. How would you know what I know or don't know? Or if I came what I said?

Of course, I would never do that.

Jsibauste wrote:

Well it doesn't affect me whether you think I look like a fool or not but the facts are there. I am aware of the network insecurities, nevertheless WPS is only a feature in devices and not the only option and can be easily disabled but I understand in some ways why Apple would not want to give this option to their users. This may be too complicated and may not want to upset their users with options 😝. By the way, I have an iPad that I like very much.

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/27918/hacking/wi-fi-wps-hacking.html

Why would you want a manufacturer to provide options to a "security" feature which is inherently not secure? How does that help anyone? I appreciate any manufacturer who works to purge inherently insecure standards and protocols from existence and use.

WPS is an idiotic standard. It's been shown to be riddled with security holes and exploits and should be dropped by all manufacturers, and actively discouraged in use with older hardware. It is a classic example of the nonsense idea of "convenient security".

Hackers have breach just about everything, do you think the DOD network is inherently insecure? I don't think so. The iphone from the terrorist in California was cracked by the Justice department. Devices using WPS may be less secure when that feature is enabled but it can be disabled. It is just one more option provided to the consumer that makes life easier. I doubt that there will be millions of hackers sitting outside homes in black SUVS trying to hack WiFis. The process is very complicated as provided in a link earlier.

By the way, the routers and gateways are the ones that you log in using that feature, does a phone having the WPS feature it's also vulnerable? In other words, can it also be hacked using the "vjlnerability"?

Now you are just babbling. The Justice Department spent a million dollars and did so on an older iPhone without the security enclave chipset. It isn't as hard as you think to bypass WPS and Apple is aware of the vulnerabilities which have existed for almost 5 years. No one has attempted to plug them. Apple takes security of their devices quite seriously with security designed into iOS devices. They are not going to give the option to bypass that security so it makes the consumer's life easier. If you want to have WPS you will need to purchase a different device.

That's cool, I was just helping Jbrown make a decision and his life easier. Nobody is going to hack his WiFi or his phone of he chooses to buy a device that can connect through WPS

One of the tools for cracking WPS is reaver - it's open source and anyone with an Internet connection can download and use it. There are tutorials provided online of now to use it. I personally know middle school kids who know how to sniff networks and crack simple, exploitable security like WPS with tools they just download from web sites. Some of the high school and college age people I know formally study such things in technology classes. It's a lot easier than you think to hack simple, insecure standards like WPS that have known and widely publicized vulnerabilities (Schools and colleges teach those classes to educate IT students in how NOT to design a security system).

there are other mechanisms of exploiting WPS, and those too have open source tools available online, and detailed step by step tutorials. All you need is a wifi enabled laptop. A popular pastime amongst self proclaimed geeks is to war drive cities and neighborhoods looking for exploitable networks to crack.

Well that's awesome, most major manufacturers of home WiFi routers should consider hiring these students, perhaps nobody has inform them of these issues as they continue to supply the market with such devices, unless you guys are not aware that WPS enabled routers are widely available and still beign manufactured, sold, installed, and used.

They still offer other older forms of security that nobody uses anymore. Cheaper to leave them there instead of removing them. Doesn't mean you should set up your new router and then pick the weakest form of security. If you DO want to use this "easier" less secure form of security you have to do a search and find a device that supports the WPS on your router. Apple won't be one of them. Problem solved.

A lot of device manufacturers don't care about security really. They simply offer what people say they want, even when it is not a good thing to use. Whatever sells more units goes into the device. They place the emphasis on simplicity and convenience, when those very things are almost always completely at odds with true security.

Just because a consumer product can do something doesn't mean you should use it that way, not when far better alternatives are also built into the device but are just not as simple to setup and use. Consumer products are heavily influenced by sales and consumer demand. The old phrase "give the people what they want". But often what people want is not what is best for them, or is only what they want because they're unaware and uninformed of the technology they are using.

Michael Black wrote:

The old phrase "give the people what they want". But often what people want is not what is best for them, or is only what they want because they're unaware and uninformed of the technology they are using.

Which, of course, brings to mind the quote (allegedly) by Henry Ford, "If I had asked the people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.". Apple tends to give people what it thinks they should have. 😉

I completely understand where you're coming from, you remind me of good scientologists