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How to connect 12" MacBook (2015) to a 24" or 27" Apple Cinema Display AND Charge!

I made this post on my site here: https://underground.net/how-to-connect-an-apple-display-to-a-usb-c-macbook/ (Which I will update periodically)

This setup took me a LONG time to figure out, but it works great, no waking from sleep mode, etc.

To connect the new MacBook to an Apple 24″ Cinema Display or Apple 27″ LED Display (which both have a plug that is the same as the Thunderbolt connector, but are not actually Thunderbolt displays) you can opt for a really cheap option like the following item AllSmartLife USB 3.1 Type C to Mini DisplayPort Adapter from Amazon for $20:

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Which works great, but you cannot charge your computer while connected to the display, nor can you plug anything else into your computer like an external hard drive, etc.

To be able to charge your computer AND connect to the display AND connect other devices to your MacBook you need the following setup, and it works great, btw.

1 First get this USB-C to USB Multiport Adapter, Belinda® USB-C to 3-Port USB 3.0 which is around $36 on Amazon.

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2Next you need an expensive item, the StarTech.com USB 3.0 to DisplayPort 2560 x 1600 External Video Card Multi Monitor Adapter (USB32DPPRO) which is around $74 on Amazon:

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3Finally you need a cheap item, the Cable Matters DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort Male to Female Adapter at $9 on Amazon:

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Plug all this stuff in and it ends up looking rather clean where it connects to the computer as you can see below, and you can plug the USB port from the display into the hub and use the speakers on the display, AND you still have a USB 3.0 port available for an external hard drive.

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It will set you back around $119! Wow, that’s a LOT, but it works. Or you can go cheap and just get the first adapter for $20 but charge your MacBook by unplugging it periodically to plug in the charger. What a PAIN in the *** Apple.

The upcoming new MacBooks will have a combined Thunderbolt/USB-C plug which should *hopefully* make plugging in a display and charging at the same time less expensive, but who knows?!

MacBook, OS X El Capitan (10.11.3), null

Posted on Feb 19, 2016 11:39 AM

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Posted on Feb 22, 2016 5:36 PM

If you want me to make your post a user tip, I can put it in the MacBook 2015 forum User tips.

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Jun 5, 2016 7:49 PM in response to Chazzzzy

Thanks for the updates, especially on your original post. I was just about to buy the StarTech USB to Displayport adapter and read you latest post. Very disappointing!!


I have done a ton of research and it appears that there is nothing available for purchase today that will allow the use of the Apple Display and charge the laptop at the same time......very sad!!!


The only 2 viable options that I've found are both "Pre-Order" only.


Option 1: HydraDock http://www.hydradock.com/

This dock has both Mini Displayport and HDMI

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Option 2: Caldigit USB-C Dock http://www.caldigit.com/usb-c/

This dock has a full size Displayport (requires female MDP to male DP adapter) and HDMI.

The advantage of this port is that it has its own power supply, so only one of the USB-C ports (labeled "computer") has to be used. The other USB-C port is a full data port and can be used for other accessories, including the AllSmartLife MDP video adapter!

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Unfortunately, both are still listed on their websites as Pre-Order and state that they will ship in June, but no commitments to the available date.

Jun 6, 2016 9:01 AM in response to TMS2248

Here is the latest from update KickShark on the HydraDock, I preordered it last month:

This past week was spent heavily testing a dozen sample PC boards of the revised design, plugging them into dozens of monitors, many of which create known problems with the earlier HydraDock circuitry. The new boards have worked with 100% reliability, so we are releasing the project for mass production.


A note about timing. Previously, we were going to complete and ship an initial 1500 piece HydraDock run that covered essentially the pre-orders through December 2015 placed through Kickstarter and on BackerKit. Then, we were going to do a second production run of 2,000 units to fill all pre-orders since January (from the Celery order system on the HydraDock web site.) Now, because of having to install a new PC board in all of the existing enclosures, we are combining everything into one 4,000 unit production run.


We have also received and tested an updated Roadie PC board that has proven 100% reliable. So, we are moving to a 2,500 unit production run of the Roadie.


The production runs for both the HydraDock and the Roadie will happen the first week of July, with products shipping from our Honk Kong fulfillment center as they are received there from the factory. Production could begin the last week of June, but we are adding a week to be safe.


All products will ship in the order they were pre-ordered, earliest pre-orders first. Understand that it will take up to a week to get all of these products manufactured, processed, and actually shipped out.

So, It's been a long process for them but finally starting to sound promising.

Jul 18, 2016 2:43 PM in response to Chazzzzy

Apple's USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter for the MacBook and Kanex XD HDMI to Minidisplay Port Converter solve the problem.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-Digital-Multiport-Adapter/dp/B00VU2K10G/ref=s r_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=14688768…

https://www.amazon.com/Kanex-HDMI-Mini-Displayport-Converter/dp/B003LGOWNQ


Other USB-C to HDMI adapters will work in place of Apples'; I have a new KickStarter KADi Port which works fine as well.


It should be noted, however, that Kanex XD converts HDMI to Apple's LED Cinema Display 27" with resolution 720p, and we may need to set the resolution for MDP adapters for HDMI.


An apple support page “Using a Retina display” tells us how to manage the resolution.


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202471

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"Get more resolutions for your external display"

You can see more resolution options for your external display by holding down the Option key while clicking the Scaled button.

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Additional resolution options appear, and we can choose 720p.


Thus, we can use the Cinema Display with miniDisplay port as the 2nd display of Retina Macbook through HDMI Adapters and Kanex XD.

Jul 18, 2016 8:41 PM in response to Chazzzzy

Any dock or adapter (like the StarTech I think) that uses DisplayLink technology uses video compression to transfer to the USB adapter which then converts it to the necessary video output (DisplayPort in this case), it doesn't pass the native DisplayPort video signal. Compression is done on the host system not the dock. You will get some lag and increased cpu usage compared to a native solution.


It maybe a good interim solution whilst something better comes out. Not sure why it is taking so long for good dock to appear.


Btw, the Dell WD15 dock does not support HDCP so no watching copy-protected video!


There seem to be lots of kickstarter/indiegogo based docks upcoming...

Aug 13, 2016 8:48 PM in response to AndreasBCN

Have not yet test the AllSmartLife adapter with the KADi port.

I'm not sure it works.

A combination of

  • USB-C 3.1 to Displayport (not USB3.0 to DP) Adapter (about $40), and
  • DP(male) to miniDP(female) converter (about $10)

works fine for the MacBook 2015.

The first adapter is an alternative to the StarTech.com USB 3.0 to DisplayPort mentioned in the original post, and available from

http://direct.sanwa.co.jp/ItemPage/500-KC017CDP

in Japan. No device drivers are required.


Unfortunately, the above combination with the KADi port does not work!


Supposedly, the adapter of USB-C to DP should be based on the implementation of “DisplayPort Alternate Mode over USB-C” of the MacBook's USB-C. But the USB-C data port of the KADi port is designed not to “pass-through” the MacBook’s USB-C with no DP signal conveyed.


Sorry, I will not test any more with other adapters.

How to connect 12" MacBook (2015) to a 24" or 27" Apple Cinema Display AND Charge!

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