logic's tuner don't work?

how do you use logic' tuner plugin????

when I try to tune a sound nothing happens>

I would like to use it basically the same way "logic build in piano" has one.

Shouldn't the tuner work exactly as that?

please tell me how to activate this unit before I go crazy.

G5, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Nov 29, 2006 6:00 AM

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Dec 3, 2006 11:22 AM in response to iSchwartz

When I checked my Strobe Tuner it said "bad"

tempered
whereas yours says "equal" tempered,should I be
worried?


Maybe. The term is "distemper" and it means you're
either a dog or a painter.

But don't worry too much. It means you've got
a mean tone.

However, just don't play in front of a classically
trained boxer, because you'll be beatin'.



Very astute observation!!!

I am actually a dog painter..............well I don't actually paint dogs,well I do but what I mean is I don't put paint on the dogs because they might bite me,especially the Boxer you talked about,no I paint pictures of dogs.

How did you know!!!!?????

Dec 3, 2006 12:59 PM in response to dora jar

Microtunesia is a little hamlet approximately midway between London and Brighton, and indeed not far from Peas Pottage. It used to be a town in Scotland called "Bleedinbagpipes Out Of Tune Again Hampsteadshireheath" but in the mid 1900's a bunch of expatriate musicians, seeking more humid climes (and an escape from the prosecution they saw as inevitable) sought to move closer to the sea. According to local lore, it is said that the remaining townspeople -- though rid of the scourge of those late-nite practice sessions by the old "bladder blowers" -- felt they should have moved into the sea itself.

Over the years they made tremendous progress improving their tuning and tone, and established a monastery of sorts to ensure that their legacy would endure. Thinking it would be pithy to call their musical priory "Tuneisia", it was eventually pointed out that the name had already been taken. As a concession, both to the name and towards an acknowledgement that their long-standing efforts to improve the tuning on the bagpipes was more or less a complete failure, they adopted the name "Microtunesia" and it stuck.

Their most notable accomplishment, however, was the development of a circular breathing method that is still in use today (Kenny G. is a graduate of their establishment, to their ignomy).

And as to Riki, he ended up marrying Lucy and moving to the states, and quite coincidentally, into the same apartment block with Fred and Ethel.

Dec 3, 2006 2:50 PM in response to iSchwartz

Microtunesia is a little hamlet approximately midway
between London and Brighton, and indeed not far from
Peas Pottage. It used to be a town in Scotland
called "Bleedinbagpipes Out Of Tune Again
Hampsteadshireheath" but in the mid 1900's a bunch
of expatriate musicians, seeking more humid climes
(and an escape from the prosecution they saw as
inevitable) sought to move closer to the sea.
According to local lore, it is said that the
remaining townspeople -- though rid of the scourge
of those late-nite practice sessions by the old
"bladder blowers" -- felt they should have moved
into the sea itself.

Over the years they made tremendous progress
improving their tuning and tone, and established a
monastery of sorts to ensure that their legacy would
endure. Thinking it would be pithy to call their
musical priory "Tuneisia", it was eventually pointed
out that the name had already been taken. As a
concession, both to the name and towards an
acknowledgement that their long-standing efforts to
improve the tuning on the bagpipes was more or less a
complete failure, they adopted the name
"Microtunesia" and it stuck.

Their most notable accomplishment, however, was the
development of a circular breathing method that is
still in use today (Kenny G. is a graduate of their
establishment, to their ignomy).

And as to Riki, he ended up marrying Lucy and moving
to the states, and quite coincidentally, into the
same apartment block with Fred and Ethel.



Thank you so much for your colourful and informative reply.

I am very pleased that Rikki finally got the job he wanted as a trainee chicken rustler in a monastry and I have pre-ordered a copy of your yet to be written book,The A-G of chunas, subtitled,From Pitchforks to Pitchpipes.

Dec 3, 2006 7:32 PM in response to dora jar

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Dec 12, 2006 11:10 AM in response to guitarguru

probably so.. as i do let my daughter play with it some.

i got a nice rack tuner that i use mainly so the logic tuner isn't really an issue. i was throwing out the harmonics suggestion because that is how i have to do it to get a study signal on the meter. if i use just open strings with the logic turner all over the place. use harmonics works fine.

Dec 12, 2006 2:34 PM in response to frequent popsicle

Hey fp,

Regarding the tuning - you are actually tuning the guitar differently by tuning by ear using harmonics. It is 'off' but you may be used to it. Intonated or new strings aside, this problem/difference will still exist. By the time you get to the last string, you will be quite a ways off. Now, that difference may sound good to your ears, but it does explain why the difference exists. A perfect fifth is not really exactly 700 cents.

J

Dec 12, 2006 4:22 PM in response to frequent popsicle

fp, which type of guitar are you trying to tune? an electric or an acoustic?
An electric should give you no trouble at all with the Logic tuner, especially if you use the fingerboard pickup. If you can switch it to humbucker mode that will be even better as that way you will have fewer overtones going into the tuner. If you don't have a fingerboard position humbucker, try selecting fingerboard & middle pickup. That is nearly as good.
Steel string acoustics can be a bit of a b **r for overtones. If you are tuning one of those, try playing the strings somewhere between the 17th & the 24th frets. That should damp down a lot of the overtones that are probably upsetting the tuner.

To get the best result, though, you will have to temper the guitar's tuning. Tempering is a simple process, but takes a bit of time to explain, so I will leave that aspect for another time

guitarguru

Dec 13, 2006 11:28 AM in response to guitarguru

les paul jr.
it just isn't very stable tuner. this is why i have a rack tuner, and a 440 tunning fork. i was just throwing in my experience with the logic tuner.
if i play open strings (one at a time mind you) the tuner just goes nuts.
if i play a 12 fret harmonic of that string it is really stable.
i don't use the logic tuner for that reason.
when i use the rack tuner or the tuning fork everything works fine.

Dec 14, 2006 1:40 AM in response to frequent popsicle

The tuner should be stable with a Les Paul. From the description you give of its behaviour, it sounds as though you produce a lot of overtones when you pluck the strings. Do you damp all but the string you are tuning when you use it? Are you using a very bright set of strings on it? Have you tried plucking gently? Plucking near the 24th or 12th frets will help to reduce the number of overtones produced by a string; plucking near the bridge will increase the overtones.
My guitar has a choice of single or double coil pickups. I find the double coil gives me a very stable signal in the Logic tuner. I get the best results either with the fingerboard pickup in humbucker mode or the fingerboard & mid pickups in single coil mode.
Another thought. If you haven't already done so, try putting the tuner into a bus and using a send value of about 10 - 30. I have found that using low send values helps with acoustic instruments. It might help you.

guitarguru

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