Printing to Parallel or Serial Port Printers Under Mac OS X?

Sorry for this slightly off-topic subject, but I don't felt like adding the topic under the Apple Printer Forum.

I would like to use an Epson Stylus Color II on a G3 running Mac OS X Jaguar, or a G3/BW running Panther. The problem is that Mac OS X does not support printers attached to the serial port, or that the printers are not supported under Mac OS X.

I have a similar issue with my Laserwriter 310 Select, and Imagewriter.

I did some investigating and it seems that there is an alternative between (a) using the printers on a Mac running Classic OS; or (b) using GimpPrint, an adapter Parallel-USB, etc.

The problem is that I have a tight operating budget, and already several Macs running Classic OS. So it would seem reasonable enough to delegate the printing job to those Macs through Ethernet network.

The (b) solution is appealing because it is more straightforward and provides direct Mac OS X operation, which is handy in case you are printing from Mac OS X applications.

I would be grateful for your help and advice, both in terms of finance and hardware. Thank you!

- Frederic.

G3B/W 400 - 3x G3/MT300 - 7300/450 - Quadra 650 - LC, Mac OS X (10.3.9), 2x Philips 202P - 2x Philips 109P

Posted on Nov 29, 2006 9:44 AM

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Nov 29, 2006 2:19 PM in response to FredericErk

Federic,

Until recently, we did all our printing from a Beige G3 and G4MDD (both running 10.3.9), an older eMac running Jaguar, and a new eMac running Tiger to an ancient LaserWriter 4/600PS. The trick cost a little money but worked wonderfully until the printer began to show its age after 12 years of daily use. I don't know if it will help the Epson; if the Epson could be networked via LocalTalk, it should work for it, too.

The trick is a LocalTalk-to-Ethernet adaptor. It turned the printer into an ethernet printer and jobs printed much faster than when the printer was networked to older Macs via Localtalk,

Our adaptor is a Farallon ePrint LT. They are no longer made but may be available on the used market. Asante still makes a similar device here.

The hookup also requires a PhoneNet connector. They are hard to find new but I hear they are all over the used market. The chain is:

laserwriter>--->PhoneNet adap>---(phone cable)--->localtalk-to-enet adap>-----(cat 5)---->computer, hub or router.

Worth looking into as it's a great solution.

Allan

Nov 30, 2006 3:22 AM in response to Allan Jones

Allan,

I remember that some Apple Quadra 840 AV's were used at Harvard as print servers. I never inspected the setup, but I can imagine that the Quadra's were either linked through AAUI-Ethernet, or NuBus Ethernet, and supported those excellent Laserwriters.

In my case, I have two Quadra 650's with AAUI-Ethernet, and I thought, well, I can use them as print servers.

The main printing job would be done by a Brother Laser attached to a G3/BW and networked to two PC's.

The interesting aspect of your reply is that you did not mention the USB adapters. I read they were not always working as expected!

I will of course consider your advice. Could you provide me with more details, like manufacturers & everything which could help me to pinpoint that stuff online.

Thanks again,

Frederic.

Nov 30, 2006 3:58 AM in response to FredericErk

Here's an eBay auction item that has a good picture of PhoneNet adaptors:

PhoneNet adapters

These are newer Farallons like I have. I have no idea what the "self-terminating locking connectors" are. Maybe Grant knows. Notice that each connector has two phone jacks; you can see the little terminators in a couple of the jacks. These are required if you use only one port. LocalTalk allowed daisy-chaining of computers and devices and that's when you would use both ports.

Here's a listing for an older style Farallon:

<a href-"http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Pack-of-PhoneNet-LocalTalk-Adapters_W0QQitemZ300016 248683QQihZ020QQcategoryZ51046QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohos ting"> Old Farallon adapter

I recommend the newer style shown in the first listing; we had some of the old ones at the office quit working. The newer style has been more reliable.

Here is the AAUI-to-ethernet transceiver (adaptor) for older MAcs with only an AAUI port:

Transceiver

I can't find a picture of the Farallon ePrint LocalTalk-to-Ethernet adaptor but the link in my first response shows the currently available unit from Asante. IF you find a Farallon ePrint, make certain it is labeled "LT." There is another with, I think, "SW" that only works with StyleWriter printers.

A winter windstorm woke me at 3AM so, if any of this looks like gibberish, you know why!

Allan

Nov 30, 2006 5:52 PM in response to FredericErk

I would like to use an Epson Stylus Color II on a G3
running Mac OS X Jaguar, or a G3/BW running Panther.

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(b) using GimpPrint, an adapter Parallel-USB, etc.


Alternative (b) should work, but you might not be happy with the performance. A few years ago, when I first tried OS X maybe with 10.1 and/or 10.2 I don't recall now, I had an Epson Stylus Color 800. It had serial and parallel interfaces on it for Mac and PC use. I was able to get a USB-parallel cable and installed a USB/FW PCI card in my G3 and installed the gimp-print drivers to get it working. Very often, the printer connection would get lost requiring a reboot to restore printing. I don't know if the gimp-print drivers have been improved in stability since then.

Dec 1, 2006 7:59 PM in response to Allan Jones

>"the "self-terminating locking connectors"

That is the genuine Apple implementation of the AppleTalk/LocalTalk hardware. No termination was required, but it could only support 8 devices at modest cable lengths using special cables. The first version came apart too easily, so the locking connectors were invented.

Farallon studied what Apple had done and decided that requiring a terminator in the last empty socket was not a heavy burden. That would allow you to quadruple both the cable lengths and the number of stations supported. You could also use readily-available and cheap telephone wire instead of special cables.

The market saw PhoneNet as so compelling there were multiple "copy-cat" products produced by other companies. Nobody copied Apple locking connectors.

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