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Google just turned off access to gmail from Mail.app?

Logged in this morning, and got two emails -- one in my gmail mailbox and one in my mailbox for my recovery email.


Hi Cathy,

Someone just tried to sign in to your Google Account myAccount@gmail.com from an app that doesn't meet modern security standards.

Details:

Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:19 AM (Central Daylight Time)

myCity, myState, USA*

We strongly recommend that you use a secure app, like Gmail, to access your account. All apps made by Google meet these security standards. Using a less secure app, on the other hand, could leave your account vulnerable. Learn more.


Google stopped this sign-in attempt, but you should review your recently used devices:


***?!?!?!? WHAT APP?!?! Mail? Messages? Something else? Is this even a real email that's really from google or is it a phishing attack?

Posted on Apr 6, 2016 7:45 AM

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Jul 30, 2017 7:45 AM in response to cathy fasano

I have received the exact same email today.


One of my Gmail addresses was misbehaving (I was deleting some messages, but they kept appearing in my inbox. I tried deleting them from Gmail server and they were deleted, but still they appeared in my inbox). So I deleted that account and tried to re-create it.


First, when I selected "Google" as the new email account, I got a message saying that this was not a secure connection due to either my network or proxy settings. I am not using any proxy and my network settings are just fine.


So I tried to create it as a simple email account. After completing the procedure, the problematic emails disappeared and I received this email about non-secure apps. I turned off the detection of less secure apps, and everything was fine.


Then I received another email from Google, telling me that I have changed my settings as far as secure apps were concerned, and now it was more easy for a hacker to break into my account. So I followed the link in that email and switched off the non-secure apps option. After that, my Apple Mail app could not access that Gmail account. I turned on again, the access to non-secure apps, and everything went back to normal !!!!!!


What is strange though, is that my other Gmail accounts do not seem to have any problems.


Google's mania for security is driving me up the wall !!!!!

Jul 30, 2017 8:03 AM in response to John Caradimas

If that's a phishing attempt as some people suggest, please explain this to me:


With the non-secure devices access turned off, from Google's site, when I check for email from that account, I get a triangle with an exclamation mark, next to the mailbox name in Apple's Mail.app, which when clicked, says:


Alert


There may be a problem with the mail server or network. Verify the settings for account “Gmail” or try again.


The server returned the error: Please log in via your web browser: https://support.google.com/mail/accounts/answer/78754 (Failure)


Emails are delivered to my inbox though, but the triangle stays there!


As soon as I switch on the access of non-secure apps (meaning insecure apps can access my account), the triangle disappears.


This is ridiculous!!!!

Apr 6, 2016 8:18 AM in response to KiltedTim

Even if the email that you received is legit, there is no way for you (or me) to know whether the email that I received is legit or not.


The purpose of this email is to get me to push the big blue button in the mail. If I were a bad guy, I would copy the wording and format of the email exactly and then have the big blue button install ransomeware on the poor sap's computer and charge big $$$$$$ for the key to decrypt the hard drive.


In fact, we have a phone call with google scheduled this morning to talk about google business services. And now we are wondering how to tell whether the people on the other end of the phone call are really google or not! My boss was ALREADY planning on telling them "No, absolutely not. We will not put our proprietary data on your servers for you to datamine." Now we will add, "**** NO!!! YOU JUST TURNED OFF AN EMAIL ACCOUNT WITH NO WARNING AND NO RECOURSE!!!" And if they are still on the phone we'll talk about google software update waking up and crashing production computers on deadline.


NO F.ING WAY!

Apr 6, 2016 8:30 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Luis Sequeira1 wrote:


Google did NOT turn off access from Mail.app.


You are correct -- I have confirmed that I can still send and receive gmail from both computer and iPhone. So google has blocked sign-in from SOME app on SOME device and given me no way to tell what app and/or what device. Except to use their phishing interface and push the big blue button.


No thanks. Not pushing it.

Apr 6, 2016 9:14 AM in response to Duane

Duane wrote:


You can always review the list of allowed devices.

  1. Go to Google.com
  2. Ensure that you are logged in.
  3. Click My Account
  4. Click "Device activity and notifications"

Ok, this started as being annoyed that google was doing some security communications in a way that was making everything less secure. Now that I've gone to 'Device activity and notifications' and seen no sign of the notification -- and indeed no sign of my iPhone as something that logged into gmail -- I'm now thinking that this WAS a phishing attack.


Here's a screenshot of the email:

User uploaded file


...and the return path from the raw source of the email says that it came from neonova.net not google.


Return-Path: 31wwFVwgTB8Ivw-zmxt6ikkw2v10.owwotm.kwukni0ivwuixtmkq16.kwu@gaia.bounces.google. com

Received: from zm-mta01.neonova.net (LHLO zm-mta01.neonova.net)

(137.118.45.15) by zm-mbs23.neonova.net with LMTP; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:19:26

-0400 (EDT)



The links in the email all appear to go back to google.com, but I didn't click the blue button, either.

Apr 6, 2016 12:45 PM in response to giuseppe.russo82

giuseppe.russo82 wrote:


Solution:


  1. Go to https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps
  2. Select: Active
  3. Restart Mail

Actually, the email is a phishing attack. And if I log into google and change my settings to allow login from "less secure apps" as you suggest, I expect that the bad guys who sent the email will promptly break into my account.

Google just turned off access to gmail from Mail.app?

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