Why doesn't Finder show folder structure clearly

Hi All,

A slight frustrated rant first

I'm new to the OS operating system.

I've been Windows all my life. I never thought it particularly brilliant but at least it was straight forward.

I am totally baffled by the logic used in Apple OS X.

Maybe you experienced users think nothing of it but I think it's bordering on nuts.

Simple things are very hard to do for a new user.

I used Mac's back in the late 80's and 90's and what was wonderful about them was their ease of use.

Same with the iPhone and the iPad.

What is OS X so obtuse.

I have a mouse with no left click (I have to hold down a control key to left click-???)

It reminds me of iTunes.

The hardest thing in iTunes is to put the songs you want on your phone - surely it should be the easiest thing to do.

Anyway apologies for the rant but its been totally unexpected how unwieldy OS X is.


To my question

I can use finder to find my pictures but it doesn't bring me to the folder that its in. It just brings me the file.

Macintosh HD/Users/fergalocallaghan/Pictures/2016/2016-05-07

Why can't I find the folder itself?

I can find it with applications no problem but not directly in Finder.

Why doesn't pictures appear as one of the options on the left of the screen


Maybe it's a simple thing to do but any instruction I try to follow seem to make assumptions you already know what you are doing.

This is a common one

To change the items in your sidebar, choose Finder > Preferences from the Finder menu bar, then click Sidebar at the top of the preferences window

I can't find any "Preferences" on the Finder Screen to go to. If it exists it looks hidden on my current set up.


All I want to do is copy all the pictures from the folder 2016-05-07 to a memory stick.

In windows this takes all of 5 seconds. A three year old could work it out.

On this OS its hidden somewhere and totally unintuitive to find.

Can anyone give me some simple advice?

I want to love it but it's so hard - its a magnificent machine but totally let down by its OS.

Posted on May 9, 2016 11:53 AM

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May 9, 2016 12:25 PM in response to HectorHector1970

Hector, What mouse do you have? If it is a magic mouse, then yes, you do have a right click control, just click with your right finger for a right click and click with your left finger for a left click. For more details click on the "Apple" menu on the top left of your screen, then "System Preferences", then on the mouse icon. Apple calls the right click a "Secondary click". You can have it on the right side or the left side of the mouse.


The Photos file system drives some user here nuts too. If you want to see where the photos are stored hold down the option (alt) key while opening the Photos app. The file location will appear but, as far as I know, you can not go directly to an image file. The way I would do what you are trying to do is to open the Photos app and view "All Photos" and select the images you want to export to the memory stick (hold down "Command" and click individual photos or hold down the shift key and select a series of photos by selecting the first and last photo [all in between will be selected]) and then select "Export" from the Photos app file menu (you can export as originals or as reduced file size), choose the location you want the files copied to and you are done. I hope that helps.

May 9, 2016 12:34 PM in response to pokey b

Hi Pokey b

This answer also helped me.

So now I can find a Go option?

hmm Why do I have to click the desktop for that Go option to appear.

Why isn't it in Finder - does it make sense.


I must say I very impressed with the level of user support here.

Great answers and quick.

Thanks for that.


I actually solved my problem by moving the photos via Lightroom to the memory stick.

This was quick and easy.

But I am determined to learn this Operating System.

I've survived in my time AS400, Unix, Windows NT and even pre Windows computers where everything was command lines

- I could surely master this eventually

May 9, 2016 12:39 PM in response to HectorHector1970

Hi Hector,

I've been a mac user for 25 years and I can't figure out the logic in the recent os.

I'm hoping that you mean SIdebar when you say "side of the screen"

Try this:

wopen a new finder window (smiley face in the dock, or double click the HD icon on the desktop if you have one), it should say "Finder" at the very top of the screen next to the black apple icon.

Select Finder>Preferences>Sidebar

Make sure your home folder is checked and then you will see it in the sidebar of any finder window.


You should then see Applications, Desktop Documents...and Pictures should be there.

Using the first 3 little icons above the 'Name" column, you can choose whether it opens the folder to an extra add on window or a new one, have a play with that.


There should also be an option to add "pictures to the sidebar as well.


I hope I got the gist of your question


By the way, a good little trick:

If you hold down cmd and click on the title of a finder window (the name in the middle at the top) it will display the path.

May 9, 2016 12:45 PM in response to HectorHector1970

HH,


Firstly, let me welcome you to the [new] world of Mac and the forums. Second, let me help you reset your perspective.


You spent the last, what, 15 years using Windows GUI operating systems? Maybe even 20 if you date all the way back to 1995? You weren't proficient when you first started, and every new release brought new terminology and things being moved to different places. Give yourself a lot of credit for having learned all that you did, but also recognize that it took you the better part of two decades to learn it - it was NOT immediate.


The next thing for you to put in perspective is your frame of reference for the MacOS - The current operating system is based on BSD Unix and has absolutely nothing in common with the old MacOS (like OS 7) except that it runs on hardware branded by Apple. Even further is that Apple now uses PC-compatible architecture / hardware and not the older proprietary / POWERPC stuff. A lot has changed while you were gone, so what you knew previously is most definitely different.


You'll get there. And probably pretty quickly. We'll help when and where we can. 🙂

HectorHector1970 wrote:


Hi Pokey b

This answer also helped me.

So now I can find a Go option?

hmm Why do I have to click the desktop for that Go option to appear.

Why isn't it in Finder - does it make sense.


I must say I very impressed with the level of user support here.

Great answers and quick.

Thanks for that.


I actually solved my problem by moving the photos via Lightroom to the memory stick.

This was quick and easy.

But I am determined to learn this Operating System.

I've survived in my time AS400, Unix, Windows NT and even pre Windows computers where everything was command lines

- I could surely master this eventually


One thing to understand is what finder IS. In the world of Windows, it's like Explorer. It's both your file access and management tool AND your desktop. So, when clicking in the desktop, you get the menus for Finder. But, clicking on Finder (the square smiling Mac with the face that's half blue and half gray) will give you the same menus.

May 9, 2016 12:57 PM in response to HectorHector1970

The desktop is by default the Finder, in Mac since almost forever.

Some features have been eroded in OS X compared to MacOS9.2.


Within the Finder (main menu bar) the one marked GO is in reference

the earlier Finder versions years ago did not show a GO column...

So the use of GO (as in 'GO to Folder' + etc) are helpful in from this access point.


There are other settings to change a default view of folders, some are within each folder and other

are in Finder preferences, a few are in tiny tabs or buttons, disclosure triangles or other artifacts.


A 'Missing Manual' by Pogue may be helpful.

{noticed Duane added a similar image, & so I deleted mine)


Good luck in this matter! 🙂

May 9, 2016 12:58 PM in response to ember1205

Thanks Ember.

I'm impressed with how helpful people have been.

I know there is a learning curve in most things.

I'm a long time working with technology and menus in all types of different types of software.

I'm just surprised how unstraightforward OSX is.

Thanks to you and others people's help I'm not getting it set up right.

It just amazes me setting I have to make are default setting.

They don't make any sense to me not to be.

For me simple things should be simple to do

I can accept difficult things being difficult to do.

Accessing my files should be easy out of the box - now it looks a lot easier after your help here.

It does remind me completely of iTunes.

It looks like a current mindset in Apple.

iTunes is daftly complicated for the simple task of putting those songs I want on my phone.

It has no problem trying to put all my songs (which exceed my capacity ) on the phone.


I know from other systems it can be hard when you are expert to understand how people can't grasp seemingly simple tasks.

I do think it would be an idea for Apple to get a group of new user in and give them some simple tasks on OS X and see where they get lost and confused and fix those issues.

May 9, 2016 1:34 PM in response to HectorHector1970

Hello again Hector, In i-Tunes, for transferring some songs to your i-Phone I find it easiest to make a playlist of those tunes, then sync the phone to the computer with i-Tunes on it, then selecting that list to be loaded on the i-Phone. Then later, as you have added more or taken songs off the play list, i-Tunes will update the i-Phone every time you sync your phone. I think it can be done wirelessly too, but I haven't attempted that.

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