missmarymac13

Q: Will I still be able to run Aperture after upgrading to El Capitan?

I want to install Office 2016 on my MacBook Pro which is running 10.9.5 - it's asking me to upgrade to El Capitan. I'm worried that Aperture won't run smoothly anymore. 

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Posted on May 25, 2016 6:09 AM

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Q: Will I still be able to run Aperture after upgrading to El Capitan?

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 25, 2016 6:27 AM in response to missmarymac13
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    May 25, 2016 6:27 AM in response to missmarymac13

    On El Capitan you need Aperture 3.6.  Are you currently running Aperture 3.5.1 or an older version?

     

    Before you upgrade to el Capitan make a full Time Machine backup of you system so you can revert to Mavericks, if need be.  (see:  OS X El Capitan: Revert to a previous OS X version)

     

    And check, if you are able to update to Aperture 3.6.  Check this, before you upgrade to El Capitan.

     

    • Open the App Store and sing into your account in the Store menu with your AppleID.
    • Open the fourth tab "Purchases".  Is Aperture listed there in your Purchase history?  If yes, you will be able to update to Aperture 3.6, once you have upgraded to El Capitan.  If Aperture is missing from your Purchases history, you will only be able to update with the Help of the PapSTore support.

     

    See this user tip:    Updating to Aperture 3.6 After the Release of Photos

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8402

     

     

    Aperture 3.6 is the last version of Aperture, and the only  one to run on El Capitan.

    There are more and more issues with Aperture. Aperture 3.6 is running on El Capitan,  but the minor bugs keep accumulating.

    • When brushing adjustments, the position can be slightly off, one pixel or so.
    • The thumbnails in list view are upside down.  Re: Aperture and El Capitan OSX
    • If you add a Curves adjustment the straighten adjustment will not be visible in the exported images. See: straight
    • The link to the plug-in page does no longer work in the Aperture menu, but that is the same for all versions.

     

    And you can no longer order print products from Aperture. Apple stopped the support for Print products from Aperture completely, in any version of Aperture.

  • by bws5,

    bws5 bws5 May 25, 2016 10:54 AM in response to missmarymac13
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    May 25, 2016 10:54 AM in response to missmarymac13

    I run Aperture 3.6 with El Capitan, but two features do not work. (1) No longer is it trivial to add a keyword to a selected group of pictures (2) Aperture no longer likes to import a hundred photos from an SD card and sort them by date.  I much prefer Yosemite. You could make a startup partition or drive that runs Yosemite when you need to use Aperture.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 25, 2016 11:42 AM in response to bws5
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    May 25, 2016 11:42 AM in response to bws5
    (1) No longer is it trivial to add a keyword to a selected group of pictures (2)

    Have you checked, if you accidentally enabled the "Primary Only" flag?  If the "Primary Only" flag is active, the keywords will only be applied to the primary selection of a group of selected photos. Uncheck the rectangle with the "1" (Edit > Primary Only).

     

    Screen Shot 2016-05-25 at 20.38.06GMT.png

    (2) Aperture no longer likes to import a hundred photos from an SD card and sort them by date.

    Could you please elaborate on this? I have not yet seen this problem reported.

  • by bws5,

    bws5 bws5 May 25, 2016 12:06 PM in response to léonie
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    May 25, 2016 12:06 PM in response to léonie

    Oh my gosh. Inadvertently I had selected that button. What a hassle I have had because I did not know this was why I could only add words to one photo at a time. Thanks ever so much for this trivial solution to a vexing problem. Wow!

     

    OK, as to the input, maybe that too is trivial. I have found that when I am running El Capitan that Aperture does recognize an SD card, but it will only select maybe a dozen photos for importing. If I have maybe a hundred then the only way I know to import them is to drag the icon of the photos folder onto the left-hand side of the Aperture window. Then it brings in the whole lot without sorting them. If there are not so many photos (not sure how many that is) then Aperture will recognize the SD card and the whole lot will be selected by default and when they are imported they will be in sets by date, which is how I like them.

     

    I had tried the same library with Yosemite and El Capitan, and I had thought El Capitan was at fault. But maybe I was wrong about  this too

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait May 25, 2016 12:30 PM in response to bws5
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    May 25, 2016 12:30 PM in response to bws5

    You may also want to copy the photos to a temporary location on your Mac, then use Aperture to import from the computer rather than directly from the card. This has solved some problems I occasionally had during the import process (not the problem you describe). Long ago, I know some experienced users on this forum suggested this method as the preferred method for importing photos. Perhaps it will solve your import problem.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 25, 2016 12:39 PM in response to bws5
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    May 25, 2016 12:39 PM in response to bws5
    l. I have found that when I am running El Capitan that Aperture does recognize an SD card, but it will only select maybe a dozen photos for importing.

    I am not sure about this, but check the settings in the Import panel. Perhaps the settings are excluding photos from import.

    Screen Shot 2016-05-25 at 21.30.08GMT.png

    I.e., look at "File Types", exclude Duplicates, RAW&JPEG pairs.  (Aperture Help: Import preferences)

     

    If none of that applies, it may help to remove the Import Presets from ~/Library/Application Support/Aperture/Import Presets.plist

     

    See:  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201289  (see the paragraph: Move the user created presets, keyword lists, and so on..)

  • by bws5,

    bws5 bws5 May 25, 2016 1:30 PM in response to léonie
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    May 25, 2016 1:30 PM in response to léonie

    I found the pulldown that you show. I have checked that files should be broken up by date. I do not exclude anything. But the behavior seems to depend on how many photos are in the collection I want to import. When there are not too many they are separated by date. If there are a lot and I drag the icon of the folder of photos onto the Aperture left side, then they are not separated.

     

    But this is a minor problem compared with the one that you have solved for me, that little button that got pushed by mistake.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 25, 2016 1:34 PM in response to bws5
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    May 25, 2016 1:34 PM in response to bws5

    The "Primary Only" flag is tied the "P" keyboard shortcut.  It is so easy to enter accidentally "P".  It happened to me to.

  • by bws5,

    bws5 bws5 May 25, 2016 1:35 PM in response to David Strait
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    May 25, 2016 1:35 PM in response to David Strait

    Thanks for a suggestion. When I have a large set of photos they are in a folder DCIM and this is what I drag to Aperture. Not sure why it would matter where I drag this from, the SD card or the desktop, but I will try when I have another big set of photos.

  • by jfaughnan,

    jfaughnan jfaughnan Jul 23, 2016 7:33 PM in response to léonie
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    Jul 23, 2016 7:33 PM in response to léonie

    Today the workspace wouldn't show for me. Sounds like a problem noticed in El Cap beta. In my case turning off Dashboard space made it work again, but I suspect using the space windows control in the aperture dock icon context menu would work too.

     

    I wrote a blog post listing the known issues as of the end-of-life for El Capitan. Mostly what's here plus soft proofing and the missing workspace:

     

    http://tech.kateva.org/2016/07/aperture-in-el-capitan-not-showing.html

     

    The straighten bug is the worst.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jul 23, 2016 11:46 PM in response to jfaughnan
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    Jul 23, 2016 11:46 PM in response to jfaughnan

    That is a very useful blog entry.  Thanks for posting the link.

    Sounds like a problem noticed in El Cap beta.

    There is no need to run an El Cap Beta any longer, now that the new stable version of El Capitan OS X 10.11.6 can be downloaded from the App Store.  Have you considered to return to the current official release before the upgrade to Sierra in Fall?

    The straighten bug is the worst.

    It behaving very erratic - as soon as the Curves and Straighten tool are applied together. The results are so random that I suspect an unitialized variable or a buffer overflow somewhere in Aperture.  Fixing such a bug would require the release of an update with a bug fix.

    When I force Aperture 3.4.5 to run on El Capitan, it is showing the same problem with Straighten and Curves, so the problem has been around for quite some time.

  • by jfaughnan,

    jfaughnan jfaughnan Jul 24, 2016 8:44 AM in response to léonie
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    Jul 24, 2016 8:44 AM in response to léonie

    I meant the workspace bug was first noticed in El Cap beta, but I'm running 10.11.5. It's clearly intermittent. I'll update to 10.11.6 in a bit. I'll add to the blog post as I notice other things. For example, the on-quite progress dialog doesn't render correctly for me -- just shows as empty box.