CarPlay voice audio quality when connected via USB is poor vs. Bluetooth on Pioneer AVH-4200NEX

Hi!


I recently installed a Pioneer AVH-4200NEX unit, as I was super excited to enhance my car with CarPlay support, and everything is working great except for one thing. When I connect my iPhone (6S+) to the unit via USB cable and make a standard phone call, the audio quality is very poor -- tinny, metallic-sounding, and very undersampled, compared to using Bluetooth via the Pioneer unit to make the exact same phone call (I'm on LTE, using HD Voice, though the quality differential is quite noticeable on non-HD calls and on 4G calls). I've searched for an answer to this issue, but the best I can find it mention of the limited bandwidth of USB and trying to juggle that bandwidth for the rest of the CarPlay experience, though I don't buy that because playing audio via the USB-connected iPhone is just as crystal clear as it is via Bluetooth. So my question is: (a) How can I submit an Apple bug report regarding this behavior and (b) Have any other CarPlay users besides be experienced this issue on a Pioneer NEX unit (AppRadio included) of recent vintage? It would be great if this is a Pioneer bug for which they can release a firmware update, I'm just worried that this is a CarPlay-specified codec issue, hence non-fixable.


Thanks!

--Seth

iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 9.3.2

Posted on Jun 13, 2016 12:56 PM

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Posted on Aug 6, 2016 6:17 AM

I was using an official Apple cable from my iPhone. I changed it to a shorter (50cm) MiFi certified cable and this seems to have fixed the issue. The audio quality is now even better than the Pioneer Bluetooth. I'm not sure how long this will last but I'm glad it worked! Even though the official cable was almost new it might have been worn off enough so that the newer one worked better. Or a shorter cable allows for better communication between the devices...

hope this helps! (The cable I got is the delayCON and I got it from Amazon)

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Aug 23, 2017 12:21 AM in response to servie

Yep, I too have this problem.


I purchased a Kenwood DDX-9017-DABS (particularly for its CarPlay capability) but am disappointed to find that the telephone call quality when plugged-in via USB and CarPlay is significantly poorer than via Bluetooth. In my case it seems that outgoing audio is particularly affected, with incoming less so. I had originally assumed there were problems with the supplied microphone or its placement!


I have now been back to the retailer three times and he has advised that he is now aware that this is an issue known to Kenwood. There is no known fix as they are uncertain as to whether it is a Kenwood or Apple problem. From what I've now read here on Apple Communities I suspect that it's an Apple one.


The retailer also suggested that the forthcoming iOS 11 update (which does include a number of changes in CarPlay) may help. It's not too far away so I'm happy to wait at this stage. I'll try some new cables etc. too but don't hold out any great hope that they will solve it all.

Oct 9, 2017 2:35 AM in response to servie

I am in the same boat!


BRAND NEW Hyundai iLoad MY18 model... Apple CarPlay in factory head unit!


Phone calls through the USB cable running CarPlay is UNUSABLE!!!


It is quiet... static... and just BAD!!!


One of the reasons I upgraded to the new model iLoad (already had a 2013 model) is to have the CarPlay features...


And well it is CRAP!!!


Apple is losing its quality in EVERYTHING!!!


COME ON APPLE!! RESPOND PLEASE!!!


FIX YOUR S#*T!

Oct 28, 2017 9:00 PM in response to servie

I received an interesting piece of information from the Genius Bar tonight and I think it may be the root of all of our problem here. Under Cellular | Cellular Data Options | Enable LTE, there is the choice of Off | Voice & Data | Data Only. My phone was set to Voice & Data and was advised to change that to Data Only should I experience any robot like phone quality. She said it hits iphone 7 and 8's (I assume X as well) especially hard.


So try turning that setting to Data Only and see if the phone quality improves. My initial tests didn't show any robot-ing but I haven't tested it long enough to tell for sure if it solves the issue.


Kenwood DNX-994S with an iPhone 8+

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