Delete Photos Just Off iPhone, Not iCloud

Erasing the phone will not result in losing iCloud content. The erase function just trashes the encryption key, making the phone's contents unreadable. It does not methodically go through apps and delete content.

There is NO WAY to both delete photos from iPhone and also save to iCloud

Yes, that's exactly the way that most of us want it and furthermore, we also don't want to have to fiddle or even think about settings that will change it to the way you want it. If you don't like the Apple way, choose another service, there are plenty out there. You already mention Amazon, use it then, I wouldn't entertain it, so we would both be happy if you did.

A smart and well thought out product would automatically sync your files to iCloud, with the ability to "save" the files in iCloud so that one can delete images on their iPhone to free up space. The fact that one cannot both save files to iCloud and delete from their iPhone only exemplifies the utter incompetence and arrogance of the Apple team and their fanboys.

kaolynfromboulder wrote:

A smart and well thought out product would automatically sync your files to iCloud, with the ability to "save" the files in iCloud so that one can delete images on their iPhone to free up space. The fact that one cannot both save files to iCloud and delete from their iPhone only exemplifies the utter incompetence and arrogance of the Apple team and their fanboys.

Or, to phrase it another way, "Anything I don't agree with is bad".

"And attack anyone who disagrees with me on a personal level"

It's well established that an ad hominem attack is an admission that you are wrong and you know you are wrong. If you truly believe that you are right there is no need to attack someone who disagrees with you.

It just seems worse than usual lately. Way to many of the "Anything I disagree with or don't like is bad. Anyone who disagrees with my preference is stupid. And it's not a "preference" because I know it's the only right way to do things" sort of posts. I got accused of having Stockholm Syndrome because said that I didn't think that the change in the way dictation works is a big deal.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

Perhaps a reflection of the current political climate?

Yes, I think so. This sort of behavior has always existed but it didn't used to be something one took public pride in displaying. It makes me very sad.

kaolynfromboulder wrote:

It makes no sense to offer a paid service that prohibits the user from the ability to delete data on their device. Period.

Or, to rephrase, "It makes no sense for Apple to offer a service, that while other people might find it useful, doesn't do what I want because only what I want is important".

That's what I am doing. Just disappointed that the Apple is forcing their users to go to their competitor and don't offer the ability to backup data on the cloud. iCloud team should be fired as I am sure there isn't a CEO who would be okay with this.

kaolynfromboulder wrote:

iCloud team should be fired as I am sure there isn't a CEO who would be okay with this.

There is very obviously a CEO who's okay with the way iCloud works. His name is Tim Cook.

It would be nice if the optimization feature kept at least some of the previous things you have taken a picture of as actual files because they don’t work with a lot of the apps to pull it out of the cloud and report an error. The photo app itself won’t even pull it out of the cloud in time, does it even have the common sense not to upload it to the cloud if you’re taking pictures on the mountains and you’re screwed if you want to show your friends a picture and don’t have Internet connection. Apples tactic keeping your new photos prisoner to your phone and iCloud seems like in economic tactics to force you to upgrade with a phone with more memory which is what I currently have to do but I am ready to move up to an iPhone 8+ I’m tired of regular size phones and I need more ram for the videos but I am being held hostage to my recent hobby of video recording. I honestly thought an iPhone 7 was going to be my last phone but oh well the 8 plus will be the best of a tablet and sort of a phone size

It would be nice if the optimization feature kept at least some of the previous things

Assuming you have enough space, that's exactly what it does,

and you’re screwed if you want to show your friends a picture and don’t have Internet connection.

Not sure what you are talking about, I can show my friends optimised photos without an internet connection.

It’s a feature, not a bug: iCloud functions in such a way as to maximize the storage space one uses both on one’s phone and in iCloud. Where do you think all those Apple profits come from? And another feature: making casual users absolutely terrified of taking anything off the cloud or their devices, for fear of permanently losing it. Again, easier just to pay the $20 a month.

"Keep every last shot" implies that you can keep a lifetime's worth of photos. Obviously, if you eventually top out, but can't delete from your phone without also deleting from the cloud, well... you *cannot* "keep every last shot." Just saying'...

I couldn't agree more! Even if I had access to a computer that I would trust enough to upload pictures and videos off my iPhone to my cloud, I shouldn't have to, considering the fact that I buy extra storage every month so I can keep all my pictures or so I thought.

I too naively thought iCloud worked this way and I don't understand why it doesn't. If they can make the iPhone and the iPad surly they can fix this issue!?! I hope that Apple listens to a big portion of its consumer base when they say this is crap and fixes this issue in the future but I don't have much faith in this.