I have noticed that when I try to organize my image collection, and place images in different albums, they do not move out of my Camera Roll, but they are copied to the album selected. I want to move these photos, not copy them, how is this done?
Thanks
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 9.2.1
You can not move them out of the camera roll and move them into albums. It doesn't work that way. The albums that you create for organization contain pointers to the photos and if you were able to move them out of the camera roll, they would disappear from the albums.
You could import all of the photos to your computer, delete the photos from the phone, create albums on the computer, sync the photos organized into albums back to the device. But you can not do all that you want to do on the phone itself.
Import photos and videos from your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support
Amsena wrote:
As I said repeatedly, if you imagine your Camera Roll as a mail Inbox, anyone, designer or not, would think that its ridiculous to no be able to move message out of the inbox folder and organized them in different folders.
You can imagine anything you want, but the Camera Roll is not analogous to a mail Inbox. Since the analogy is flawed, any conclusions you draw from it are meaningless.
The Camera Roll is the ONLY content on an iPhone that is accessible from a computer. That's a security imperative. If you connect the phone to your computer the Camera Roll (and nothing else) will appear in Windows Explorer or Mac Finder. That's implemented that way so you can copy your content out of the Camera Roll to your computer, then organize it any way you want. And then put the organized content back onto the phone if you want to.
The latest iOS doesn't even have a camera roll. It has a global image store, and it has albums. You can add albums. You can move images between albums. You can duplicate images in multiple albums. What had been the camera roll is just storage for all of the photos on your phone (except albums synced from your computer). When a photo appears in an album (and it can appear in more than one) all the album contains is a pointer to the photo in the global photo store. The photos are not duplicated.
Why isn't it analogous? Its totally the same. Files to organize. Mail to organize. Pictures to organize.
I am aware that photos are not duplicated.
If everything is thought so that you organize it in your PC, why are there albums in the first place?
Amsena wrote:
Why isn't it analogous? Its totally the same. Files to organize. Mail to organize. Pictures to organize.
Again, even if the analogy were apt (and I don't think it is), you are assuming that "in box" means the same thing to everyone, that everyone treats it as "mail to organize". Seriously, some people leave it in their in box forever. Gmail was set up on that premise, in fact. You labeled email so that you could view it in different ways but it was all in one box. I still, for the most part, use Gmail that way. My mail is in All Mail. I tag it. Or, I search for it. I don't waste time moving it about. Not a strategy with which everyone would be happy. But, the point is, there is more than one way to look at things, including handling photos.
You cannot simply say "I don't think so". You have to give reasons, otherwise its not valid.
If Apple could stop erasing my posts this would be a nice discussion.
I am aware some people just leave it as it is. In fact, that's what I said in the post that got deleted for who knows which reason (not appealing to Apple). The thing I said is that at least, in mail services, both alternatives coexist. The option to leave it all disorganized and not sort it out in folder, and the option to do so.
Accept it or not, your strategy might work for what you need, but its not organized. Thing is, you cant tag photos, nor put name to them, nor key word search them. If it was, then the Camera Roll would be ok. But its not possible to do so with images.
Amsena wrote:
You cannot simply say "I don't think so". You have to give reasons, otherwise its not valid.
I don’t think so. I don’t need to give a reason. It is still valid.
If Apple could stop erasing my posts this would be a nice discussion.
Actually, just the opposite.
Your posts get deleted because they are against the ToS.
I don’t think so. I don’t need to give a reason. It is still valid.
Discussions between grownups demand reasons instead of baseless opinions. Otherwise exchange of opinions becomes senseless and simplified to "because I say so".
Actually, just the opposite.
Your posts get deleted because they are against the ToS.
You are just assuming. There could be other reasons.
Amsena wrote:
Discussions between me & someone else demand reasons
Fixed that for you.
You are just assuming. There could be other reasons.
Not at all.
Posts do not get deleted unless they are against the ToS.
If they are inline with the ToS, they do not get deleted.
Not at all.
Posts do not get deleted unless they are against the ToS.
If they are inline with the ToS, they do not get deleted.
That's again an assumption, what if it was a mistake? What if the guy checking the posts is in a bad mood? Even more, the employee in charge of doing so clearly is not checking every point of the ToS, but based on his subjective opinion of the ToS he is deleting the posts. Moreover, what if Apple employees have order to delete certain posts, and these are not outlined in the ToS?
Yea, well, the feedback service is also there for a purpose but I don't see it working either.
Why would Apple delete posts that fit in with the purpose of these forums?
I myself have wondered the reasons of Apple actions for years now....
Amsena wrote:
Yea, well, the feedback service is also there for a purpose but I don't see it working either.
How do you know it’s not working?
It sends your suggestions to Apple. It does not mean you will receive a response (this is noted when you send feedback) or you suggestion will get implemented.
Amsena wrote:
I am aware of that. But it thousands of users request a feature for, lets say, 3 years? Something is clearly wrong with the feedback service or the way Apple manages the feedback its users provide.
??? How is it wrong?
Just because some/many/all request something, does not mean it is/can/should be implemented.
??? How is it wrong?
Just because some/many/all request something, does not mean it is/can/should be implemented.
Of course it does. That's what feedback is all about.
Clearly the majority of users does not send feedback. So we cannot speak about a majority in apple users. But. There are other ways to measure this. And Im gonna assume now, not blindly, based on the hundreds of threads, articles, and forums that pop up when you search "move photos from camera roll" that this feature has been requested multiple times and along a very extensive frame of time. Apple has ignored these repeated feedbacks, systematically along the years.
So much has been the claim for this feature that apps have been created to achieve this. Do you really think that developers would invest their time and resources into creating an app that would not be profitable, or would no be used by many? And its not even one guy that has seen this trend, many many developers have seen it, and so they are many apps out there promising to do this.
The flaw in the design is then clear. Its not subject to opinions. Some people suffer it more than others. Some really dont care about organization, some dont use images that much. But its there.
The real question here is, is it profitable? How expensive it is? What changes need to be made in IOS to allow this?
If many request something (with good reason), it should be implemented. It definitely can be. Will it? Not always, but it should.
Amsena wrote:
You cannot simply say "I don't think so". You have to give reasons, otherwise its not valid.
Nonsense. My opinion is just as valid as yours. You have an opinion that the Camera Roll is like an inbox. That's not an objective fact but rather your personal interpretation of the feature. My view is different. If you said you thought that red was the most beautiful color in the world and I said, no, I didn't agree, would you demand a reason?
I also went on to say that, even if we agreed that the Camera Roll was like an inbox, not everyone uses their inbox the way you find "logical".
Amsena wrote:
The flaw in the design is then clear. Its not subject to opinions. Some people suffer it more than others. Some really dont care about organization, some dont use images that much. But its there.
What you just can't seem to grasp is that, just because you don't like the way it works, doesn't mean it's a flaw or that it doesn't work for some people. Just because other people organize things in ways you would not find useful doesn't mean it's not a form of organization. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. Your insistence that your opinion is a fact that can't be argued with is tiresome.
??? How is it wrong?
Just because some/many/all request something, does not mean it is/can/should be implemented.
Of course it does. That's what feedback is all about.
Feedback is about, "Thanks for letting us know what you think. We shall take it under consideration".
That is all it is.
There are other ways to measure this. And Im gonna assume now, not blindly, based on the hundreds of threads, articles, and forums that pop up when you search "move photos from camera roll" that this feature has been requested multiple times and along a very extensive frame of time. Apple has ignored these repeated feedbacks, systematically along the years.
You mean it has not been implemented.
Feedback has not been ignored.
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