I have noticed that when I try to organize my image collection, and place images in different albums, they do not move out of my Camera Roll, but they are copied to the album selected. I want to move these photos, not copy them, how is this done?
Thanks
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 9.2.1
You can not move them out of the camera roll and move them into albums. It doesn't work that way. The albums that you create for organization contain pointers to the photos and if you were able to move them out of the camera roll, they would disappear from the albums.
You could import all of the photos to your computer, delete the photos from the phone, create albums on the computer, sync the photos organized into albums back to the device. But you can not do all that you want to do on the phone itself.
Import photos and videos from your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support
??? How is it wrong?
Just because some/many/all request something, does not mean it is/can/should be implemented.
Of course it does. That's what feedback is all about.
There are over 1 billion iOS devices in use. Just because a few hundred or a few thousand want a feature, it does not mean that it should be implemented. Maybe a much larger number like it the way it is, but they don't send feedback because it works the way they want it to. And I doubt more than a few hundred have even thought about it.
In the world of computer science this is an example of the sort vs search tradeoff. To sort you do work upfront to organize your content so you can find something quickly. In a search algorithm you do no work upfront, and instead do the work when you are looking for something. Both are valid approaches. Apple has chosen to implement the search paradigm instead of sort. It has the huge advantage that it saves considerable storage, and allows the same item to appear in multiple collections, while only having to exist once. And it is ideal for the 99% of people who don't go to the trouble of sorting. Apple also gives you automatic categorization (filtering) by date and location, so you can quickly find any image that you need.
If you want something different don't use Apple's photo management. There are plenty of others that work well with iOS. I use upthere.com and Google Photos, for example. They both have the advantage that they can work with photos from multiple sources, such as my DSLR and my iPhone. You can also use dropbox and box.com. Or shutterfly.
Regarding your analogy to a mail inbox, I keep all of my mail in my inbox. When I need to find something I use the very powerful search capabilities built into my email client. I have only a couple of thousand messages, but I have an associate with over 25,000. 20 years ago I sorted my mail, but that was tedious, and it had the serious disadvantage that I would have to choose a folder (category) for each message; most messages could match 2 or more categories, so which should I use?
Another example is gmail. All of your messages are in common storage called, amazingly, "all mail". While you can "move" a message to a folder, it isn't really a move; it just creates a pointer to the message in "all mail" (or "camera roll"). And the same message can be in more than one folder. Just like Apple Photos.
If this is totally unacceptable to you get a device that works the way you want it to. Except there aren't any. Android phones use Google Photos, which works the same way as Apple Photos. Pretty much every modern photo management app for computers works the same way also.
You mean it has not been implemented.
Feedback has not been ignored.
Like I said, If many request something (with good reason), it should be implemented. It definitely can be. Will it? Not always, but it should.
If its not implemented, it has been ignored.
"I recommend you do this"
Proceeds not as recommended.
What do you think this means? The recommendation has been ignored, plain and simple.
And I doubt more than a few hundred have even thought about it.
You doubt more than a few hundred even thought about it?! What? From where you get that impression? Based on what? Few hundred? Have you counted? How do you know what people think? Did you make a survey?
This is not about wanting a feature. This is about fixing a flaw.
Apple also gives you automatic categorization (filtering) by date and location, so you can quickly find any image that you need.
You can’t at all find an image based on date. The chronological order the Camera Roll provides is most basic form of organization and loses strength when your collection starts to grow and time starts passing by. After 1 or 2 years of owning a phone you will not find photos efficiently just by having a vague idea of when you took it/saved it/screenshoted it.
It has the huge advantage that it saves considerable storage
The option Apple has chosen that’s not save more space than the one people request. In fact, there would be no need for shortcuts, there would only be one copy of that photo and that would be it. Photo managing would be way easier if you had the actual photo in albums. You could delete an entire album and that would be it, instead of having to go back to Camara Roll, and find your photos one by one. An Album can photos from an extended timeline, don't you realize?
I would have to choose a folder (category) for each message; most messages could match 2 or more categories, so which should I use?
No, you don’t create a folder for each specific message; the whole idea of folders and categories is to go narrowing down the variables. From individual messages to subfolders to main folders, each of these levels has decreasing items. 1000 mails, 10 sub folders, 3 main folders.
If you need a message in two folders, you are making something wrong in your category naming. But you can always duplicate the message or copy to x folder.
When I need to find something I use the very powerful search capabilities built into my email client.
Exactly, mail inbox permits that form of organization because it compensates with powerful search capabilities. Image if you did not have those. Wouldn’t it be tedious to find your email based on chronological order alone? That’s what the Camera Roll is.
Pretty much every modern photo management app for computers works the same way also.
Overstatement to say the least.
If I put the general controversy aside, I have installed this Utiful app and for me it does the job. With it I can move photos out of the Camera Roll and organize them into folders. So the photos get really moved out of the Camera Roll, I got my Camera Roll quite clean in the meantime. I can also sort the photos as I like, which was also important to me. There's no tagging feature in the app however but I contacted the developer and was ensured that it's on their backlog. So far so good, I now finally have a solution to the iPhone photo organization problem raised here that applies to me in the same severity as for Amsena.
LeoLoewe wrote:
If I put the general controversy aside, I have installed this Utiful app and for me it does the job. With it I can move photos out of the Camera Roll and organize them into folders. So the photos get really moved out of the Camera Roll,
So how do you then get these stored on your computer so when your phone needs to be restored, you still have the photos?
I can easily export folders out of Utiful to my computer, over AirDrop or over iTunes. I hope they'll add a Dropbox sync though, would make things easier for me. Does this answer your question? Or do you mean what happens when you upgrade your phone? This I know because I recently upgraded to iPhone 7. The Utiful app and all photos (& videos) are obviously part of the iTunes backup because when I restored the iTunes backup of the old phone onto the iPhone 7, Utiful looked just the same as on the old phone and all photos were in the respective folders.
LeoLoewe wrote:
I can easily export folders out of Utiful to my computer, over AirDrop or over iTunes.
Why not simply sync the photos from your iPhone to your computer and have them deleted from the camera roll automatically? All in 1 step.
Then they sync back to the iPhone using iTunes.
Then you wont need a 3rd party utility and have to do several more unneeded steps.
chalkman312 wrote:
unless something changes I can see the iPhone slowly to lose market share.
Sorry to say that it is gaining market share, not losing it. iPhone sales in the most recent quarter were the best they have ever been. https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-q uarter-2007/
There are a number of apps that will archive your photos in cloud storage and allow you to delete them from the phone, yet still preserve them to view when you want to. I use two: upthere.com, and Google Photos. But there are plenty of others: Shutterfly, box.com, dropbox.com, etc.
Upthere will store all of your data; photos, videos, music, documents and allow you to organize and share them as desired.
Google photos will actually organize them for you, based on when and where they were taken; it will also group using facial recognition, create panoramas when you take adjacent images, show you albums of what you shot on the current date in the past, and many other neat organizing features.
Logixor wrote:
Imagine that I have only 2 albums, each with 5,000 photos, how in the name of God will I know which 5,000 photos I have assigned to which album... obviously I have to review all 5,000 photos in an album to know which is and which isn't !!! And even like this I would't be able to remember 5,000 photos just on the fly. It is absolutely counterintuitive to do this! Those devices are supposed to give us the liberty to do this, not take it from us!
I can't imagine keeping 10,000 pictures on my phone or thinking it made sense to that that as my prime repository for my photos. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Personally, I move almost none of my photos into albums. I use the iPhone's search to get pretty close to finding what I need. I don't understand way, if albums are the way you chose to organize photos, you'd use ones so huge that you couldn't look through them quickly. But, mostly, I don't really care how you chose to organize your photos. It's a highly personal decision. I can't change your mind and none of us here can change the way the iPhone works. Submit your feedback to Apple. Use a different app. Buy a different kind of phone.
It's not "theyPhone" it's "iPhone"
Apple will continue to do what they have always done, give you the device they think you should have.
Hi, I know this is an old thread but while I was searching for a solution to the same problem I stumbled upon it. What I ended up doing was creating a private flckr account...the app makes it very easy to upload photos and create new albums. It’s not a GREAT solution, but allows me to keep photos I use for work in an easily accessible place that IS NOT my camera roll.
Thanks for your helpful reply.
If I am not mistaken the app still does that, the link only explains that it might be unlikely that Apple adds this functionality.
That's again an assumption, what if it was a mistake?
Then it was a mistake.
But these forums are here for a purpose. Why would Apple delete posts that fit in with the purpose of these forums?
Your post was offensive to another user who was just trying to help you
It was not offensive. And he was not trying to help me. I cannot continue something I never started.
How to move Photos Out of Camera Roll?
