Macbook 2016 HDMI output flickering

I have both MacBook 2015 and MacBook 2016,


and I've purchased the original Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter.


I've loaded both MacBooks with genuine copies of Windows 10 Pro with bootcamp, partition cut into half between Mac OS and Windows 10.


The new MacBook 2016, while doing screen cloning using the Multiport Adapter under Windows 10,


the output always flickers, and the pattern is always consistent:


1.) Waking up from sleep, always flickers once;

2.) And then will at least flickers 2-3 times more;


It doesn't happen with the MacBook 2015,


is this is hardware design flaw of the new MacBook 2016?? Or is it a software (driver) issue?


All drivers are being updated to the latest.

MacBook, Windows 10

Posted on Jul 17, 2016 9:32 PM

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Nov 14, 2016 12:10 PM in response to Paulo Neves

Hi all,


I did receive a call from my Tier 2 support guy where he read back the Engineering teams response, it basically boiled down to:


- the one 24" Dell monitor you supplied the model for only has a DVI jack. The USB-C port does not support DVI only HDMI


- the one 27" Dell monitor you supplied the model for has a HDMI jack but has "known interopability issues" and should not be used


- I should have updated the firmware of the Apple Av dongle when I had it


I was furious. I am awaiting part of the engineers report being forward to me so I can response inline. I will be responding as such:


- DVI and HDMI are the *same* electrically. Barring HDCP support, digital audio transmission and EDID being a smidge different, they are the same. The issue occurs exactly the same in both HDMI-DVI and HDMI-HDMI cabling scenarios. All display devices logged work perfectly with 15" MBPs own HDMI port and numerous MBA's using both 1st and 3rd party thunderbolt to HDMI adapters, they have also worked with a wide range of Windows laptops from a wide range of manufacturers.


- do not say "not supported" without explicitly stating a comparable model which *is* supported and entirely compatible. I'm willing to buy any 27" 1440p model they recommend if it helps this conversation.


- I did update the firmware on the Apple dongle. It was still a garbage fire. Hence it was returned.


I've still not received this email from my Tier 2 man. He promised it last Friday PM. I did transform in one fall from "the nice MacBook owner who really is trying to help get this resolved" to "the angry man".


Will keep you all posted. It a good start with the engineering team.

Nov 14, 2016 2:38 PM in response to kenofstephen

I have also been in contact with Apple's engineering people; like others, they have had me collect log information and make note of dates/times when the flickering issue occurred. The person I spoke to did at least seem to take the complaints seriously, and he referred to this discussion thread during my discussions with him. Keeping my fingers crossed; in the meantime, daily reboots seem to keep the problem at bay.

Nov 14, 2016 8:27 PM in response to kenofstephen

Really wondering if this is a hardware issue on the 2016 MacBook that isn't going to be reparable in software. There have been several beta/stable updates released since this issue was discovered with zero improvement. I can't imagine how this got past Q/A. It simply isn't possible that Apple hasn't been able to replicate this internally. I have 3 2016 MacBooks purchased over the span of 5 months that all have the same issue with the Apple Multiport and 3rd party docks/adapters. We have literally spent over $1000 on different docks/adapters/cables even new monitors trying to solve this issue for our staff. NEVER have I owned an Apple product that has been this disappointing. Honestly surprised there hasn't been class action talk yet, The computer is a failure at this point.

Nov 14, 2016 9:33 PM in response to mhohman

Mhohman - I'm still hopeful that this can be resolved through a driver fix. That safe mode does not seem to suffer is to me heartening, but then perhaps I don't understand the HW-SW stack as well as I could.


With regards to Class Action this is definitely an option worth considering. I will wait until I've got eyes on my own actual response from the engineers but in the mean time shall we start collecting a list of adapters and displays devices on which we've experienced the issue?


Perhaps a Google sheet? I'd be happy to start it but would need help maintaining its updates from someone else in this thread. Anyone got the time?

Nov 15, 2016 12:50 AM in response to kenofstephen

I have this same issue. I'm running the 2016 Macbook m7 with Sierra 10.12.1.


I've connected a Dell ST2420L via the apple official USB-C Digtal AV Multiport Adaptor, I have one at home and at work and they both flicker after wake from sleep and then intermittently throughout the day. Seems to occur sometimes when closing/opening apps, though this could just be coincidence. When doing a full reboot it seems to settle a little, but then after a few sleep/wakes it starts to play up more.

Nov 15, 2016 1:00 AM in response to kenofstephen

Having exactly same issue. I took my Macbook to a GeniusBar, they had it for 1 week, did all sorts of testing and came back saying it was normal behavior if I didn't reboot the laptop daily. There was nothing to do and I had to cope with it.


I can't believe Apple is asking me to reboot my laptop every single day. Back to the 90's. Shall I do the same with my iPhone? My iPad? My Apple Watch? I have not rebooted any Apple device in months, other than to upgrade.

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