Macbook 2016 HDMI output flickering

I have both MacBook 2015 and MacBook 2016,


and I've purchased the original Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter.


I've loaded both MacBooks with genuine copies of Windows 10 Pro with bootcamp, partition cut into half between Mac OS and Windows 10.


The new MacBook 2016, while doing screen cloning using the Multiport Adapter under Windows 10,


the output always flickers, and the pattern is always consistent:


1.) Waking up from sleep, always flickers once;

2.) And then will at least flickers 2-3 times more;


It doesn't happen with the MacBook 2015,


is this is hardware design flaw of the new MacBook 2016?? Or is it a software (driver) issue?


All drivers are being updated to the latest.

MacBook, Windows 10

Posted on Jul 17, 2016 9:32 PM

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Nov 21, 2016 7:10 PM in response to kenofstephen

I have the 12" Macbook 2016 too. All external displays hooked up to this laptop flickers. I've tried many adaptors, cables, monitors. All the same problems. I've brought the Macbook to the Genius Bar TWICE and was turned away because I wasn't able to reproduce the on the spot. It is really frustrating. I'm now stuck with a defected, expensive product that I cannot return or exchange.

Nov 22, 2016 5:10 AM in response to Obsthedog

Well, Your post just confirms my suspicions...


Issue started with MacBook 12, launched in April. Users complaining, no solution. Now issue gets attention... why? Because it also impacts Apple's biggest laptop revenue model…


As for my experience with beta, na flickering but I would not call it stable by all means. Still weirdness on some situations.


Let's see what gets out as official 10.12.2.

Nov 23, 2016 10:43 AM in response to kenofstephen

Just posting an update to the status of my repair case with Apple, which I've pressed hard and finally got an interesting piece of information on.


They convened an engineering team to look at my case, but agreed to simultaneously look at the hardware in the store. Nothing has come from the engineering side and the store said they were unable to reproduce the flicker issue.


However, I got a call from the store this morning mentioning that there was a problem with the I/O board. I'm not 100% sure what that means, because the 2016 Retina MacBook does not have multiple boards...just the main/logic board.


I could swear this was a driver issue with poor memory management and tied to something USB-C-related, as I've heard this issue cropping up for Late 2016 MacBook Pro (w/ USB-C of course) users. Whatever it winds up being, I will update here on whether or not the "I/O board" replacement changes anything.

Nov 23, 2016 11:40 AM in response to nateschmoll

Really interesting, on several points.


How the store engineers can't replicate the issue I do not know. My best guess is that they simply don't give it enough time to see a flicker. The other option is that the monitors they have actually exhibit the fault. We should always ask for the specific make and model they test on. I asked for the same by email to the engineering team here on the uk 4 days ago. Total radio silence.


Re : the IO board potential fault. It's got some legs as as this ifxit tear down shows there is a tiny bit of silicon on the cable. Interestingly this is different to the 2015 model.


https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Retina+MacBook+2016+Teardown/62149

Nov 23, 2016 11:48 AM in response to tomthebeard

Also meant to say wow about the 2016 MBP's are also having the issue. Now I didn't know whether to expect this or not. As the MBPs are running thunderbolt they've got some quite different video support. At the same time most of the current USB-C video adapters I believed to just be pinning out straight HDMI using that weird Alt-mode feature of the base USB-C standard, as such using most of them at the moment I guess triggers alt-mode and not the thunderbolt video carrier.


Either way... a lot of angry new owners of the very pricey new MBP will be exactly the sort of push that will help us all get a fix.


Finally an update on my own sierra latest beta trial. I've got through a full day at home with my 1440p Dell. No flicker at all. On the negative I couldn't get any connection to a 1080p Dell at work. Might have been another issue though.

Nov 23, 2016 3:02 PM in response to tomthebeard

The 10.12.2 developer build (16C48b) seems stable and flicker-free so far with my LG ultrawide. Am on 6 days uptime - though there was a similar story when I installed 10.12.1 and the problem did come back.


@tomthebeard ... This is getting a bit off topic but... Alt-Mode isn't in any way weird, it's a way to repurpose the signal pairs to cary things in addition to USB. Thunderbolt 3 is another of the various alt-modes on USB-C, along with HDMI, DisplayPort and MHL. That and the Thunderbolt signal is in turn a mashup of PCIe and DisplayPort which get demuxed downstream by your hub/dongle/monitor. In short it's not that different.


But yes, you'd be right in thinking that the vast majority of dongles out there in the wild will be using the DisplayPort or HDMI alt-modes rather than the Thunderbolt one, at least for the time being.

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