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Can my iMac boot from an external disk?

Hi,

I have a Mid 2010 21.5" iMac that is starting to show its age with slowness. However, I do plan to upgrade the basic 4 GB of Ram to either 8 GB or 16 GB of Ram, depending on price...and my main question. I know that the Mac originally came with a 500 GB Hard Drive, and I'd also like to upgrade that to an SSD as they make a world of a difference from what I've heard, but I don't have the tech skill level to do the whole 20-30 step process. I'm wondering, as I have a 1 TB external USB SSD, if I could install a fresh version of OS X onto the USB SSD and then set that as my boot up disk and just always keep it plugged in. Would that work or does the boot up disk have to be internal instead of being exterior via USB?

Posted on Jul 19, 2016 10:49 AM

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Jul 19, 2016 3:44 PM in response to CBennett2498

CBennett2498 wrote:


I'm just afraid that if the computer is already 6 years old, that I'm just living on borrowed time with that method. Will it really make my computer last that much longer? The iMac is already the second oldest iMac version to receive the Mac OS Sierra update.

I installed a SSD in my 2011 27" iMac, its only a year younger and it works great. Made that upgrade about 2-3 years ago.

Jul 19, 2016 3:55 PM in response to CBennett2498

CBennett2498 wrote:


Ok, seems how it won't hurt to try... I already have a 32 gb flash drive that I can use to test how it will work. If it works decently, I'll go out and purchase the 128 Gb flash drive, if not. I'll install an ssd as you advise.

Okay, but at least report back with your results. If you come back with a smile and indicate you are totally happy then my hats off to you.

Jul 20, 2016 1:10 PM in response to rkaufmann87

Ok, so here's the rundown. I have El Capitan currently installed on my flash drive and I"m running the OS off of it right now. A couple things I have noticed is that, yes, it is a tad slower than the internal 500 GB HDD, and it does seem to lag here and there due to it being bottled down to USB 2.0 speeds. After reading many other forums of people in the same boat, most have decided to risk it and install an SSD inside the machine due to USB 2.0 limiting the speed of an external SSD. However, there are a few out there, and I will provide links below, that made the jump and decided to use their iMac Firewire 800 port and hook up an external SSD through the port as their boot disk. I don't know if it's just their luck or if it's truly faster than the internal HDD. I did find some tests regarding a firewire 800 ssd v. internal HDD...

Internal drive, a WD2500JS:

Code:

Disk Test 68.04
Sequential 93.78
Uncached Write 90.39 55.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 95.53 54.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 81.87 23.96 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 112.27 56.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 53.39
Uncached Write 20.74 2.20 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 110.38 35.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 97.04 0.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 136.24 25.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]



SSD in enclosure connected over FW800:

Code:

Disk Test 130.44
Sequential 87.27
Uncached Write 114.65 70.40 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 108.10 61.16 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 47.90 14.02 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 143.18 71.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 258.08
Uncached Write 142.01 15.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 197.96 63.38 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 1351.91 9.58 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 375.07 69.60 MB/sec [256K blocks]


http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/19402/is-upgrading-an-imac-to-an-ssd-ov er-usb-2-firewire-an-upgrade

(This guy did it on his 06/07 iMac and it made a difference, but I don't know if it's 5400 Rpm or 7200 Rpm internally)


http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ssd-drive-worth-it-as-an-external.1364215/

(Post #14 by thestickman states his positive experience from Firewire 800, but he doesn't specifically say which Mac he has, although the forum was originally about a 2011 iMac)


External SSD HD as system drive

(Apple support community post with the solving response have a successful try with Firewire)


http://www.macworld.com/article/2907125/use-an-external-ssd-to-make-an-old-mac-f eel-new-without-cracking-it-open.html

(Lastly, this guy had a Mac Mini that was slowing down and firewire revived it)

Jul 21, 2016 1:06 AM in response to rkaufmann87

I hate to interrupt, but I have some questions relating to SSD, as well.

OWC has a 480 GB SSD in a FireWire 800, USB 3.0 enclosure for $240.

Are you really saying an SSD won't perform faster than a conventional hard drive over a FW800 conhection?

To my way of thinking, with an SSD, I should now get even closer to the total data throughput of FW800, no?

A spinning hard drive is always going to have some data retrieval delay that will keep from reaching the total data transfer of FW800.

To my way of thinking, performance of an SSD on FW800 should be noticeably better than a normal external hard drive.

I really can't pay for both an internal SSD and installation inside my 2009 iMac and since this is my main work Mac, I don't have the confidence to open up my iMac and try to install one of these inside.

Plus, this will be my first experence with SSD technology and actually using this.

So, this is more of an experiment/experience sort of thing for me.

Using an externally enclosed SSD over FW800 seems like a good compromise to me and if responds faster over FW800 than a normal spinning hard drive...

Jul 21, 2016 8:21 AM in response to MichelPM

I think in our case, we're better off, or at least I am, in just saving the money by using the internal 7200 RPM HDD because it uses a SATA connection which uses the Hard Drive's full potential and is faster than Firewire 800. There might be a few things that are faster using Firewire 800 because it's connecting an SSD, but overall, it's not worth the money to purchase the SSD and an external closure. It's almost $100 for a basic 250 GB SSD and enclosure, and in your case, $240. That kind of money is roughly 15 to 20 percent of a new iMac! I know, it sounds good to say that the Mac is running on an SSD, but in reality the Firewire 800 cuts down on it's ability too much. However, if you do end up going that route, please post on this forum and let us know how the experience went regardless of the outcome.

Can my iMac boot from an external disk?

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