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Will Aperture 3.6 work in Mac OS Sierra?

Will Aperture 3.6 work in Mac OS Sierra?

OS X Yosemite (10.10.5)

Posted on Sep 8, 2016 11:19 AM

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Dec 11, 2016 8:28 PM in response to hyperlinked

Hyper, Version 10. I just downloaded the crippleware version to try it out. So far so good with Nikon Software. I was even able to download iPhone pics. CO has no idea what to do with an iPhone. Although Nikon software only sees Jpg on Iphone. No DNG. mov or tiff files. Aperture saw everything on iPhone, .mov, .tiff, .jpg, .dng. To make matters worse Photos screwed up my iPhoto Library. Now I have to figure out how to fix that.

Dec 12, 2016 7:24 AM in response to Rob Gendreau

The assertion that "there's nothing on the market that comes even close in terms of image management features, performance, usability, UI design, or integration with iCloud" is just silly and a disservice to those seeking advice here.


It's not silly because it's true. The only disservice I see here are broad endorsements of inferior alternative products that are severely lacking compared to Aperture and which will require tedious and time consuming library migration processes that will nonetheless result in tons of lost work.


As I've pointed out before, Aperture serves two complementary but distinct functions: 1) image editing/processing and 2) digital asset management. I agree that there are other products on the market which offer comparable or even superior editing and post-processing capabilities, such as Adobe Lightroom. However, there are no alternatives that offer image library management features as efficient and intuitive as Aperture's. Moreover, none of these software alternatives (especially Adobe) offer any sort of integration with iCloud Photo Library. Adobe even refuses to provide Lightroom extensions for Photos, as they're blatantly trying to force users to abandon Apple's cloud services in favor of their own.



I suppose that in a forum for a dying product you'd find a lot of die-hard users, but some who come here are just looking for alternatives and may not even have such strongly held opinions on the worth of Aperture.


Most of those I see here share the common sentiment that there is a dearth of suitable replacements for Aperture and that the migration process will be painful and ultimately unsatisfactory.


Sure, you may prefer it, but in fact every thing Aperture does can be replicated in a variety of other software products, and often in a better manner.


Once again, an ignorant and misleading statement that ignores the fact that Aperture is not merely an image editor but a full-featured digital asset management product, seamlessly integrated into the Apple ecosystem. there are no currently available alternatives that offer comparable DAM capabilities.


Even Photos, which I agree is no Aperture substitute, does a better job of iCloud integration. And has more modern plugins/extensions.


This is sounding more and more like a political argument, with one side prone to frequently changing the subject to distract the audience from its shortcomings. Of course Photos has better iCloud integration than Aperture! That was the primary goal of its development. But Photos is targeted at basic users and offers only limited editing and organization tools. The selection of editing extensions, two years after its release, remains limited and basic, with companies like Adobe intentionally refusing to provide extensions since, as I already pointed out, they are pushing their lousy cloud services to compete with Apple's.


And speaking of the cloud, while I agree Google may be a poor choice for some who are interested in privacy, one should also do some due diligence around entrusting Apple to auto-store your images. Ask Jennifer Lawrence, et al.


And with that asinine statement, you have lost any shred of credibility you had left. First of all, most people are aware of the big differences between Google's and Apple's business models. One of these companies makes it's money by harvesting user data to sell advertising, essentially treating their users as their product. The other is focused entirely on their users and has a long track record of defending their users' privacy.


More importantly, though, your Jennifer Lawrence reference was moronic. The scandal you're alluding to, where a number of celebrities had their personal photos publicly released by hackers, was facilitated by social engineering attacks that exploited the use of the same, weak passwords across multiple online services. At no time were Apple's servers breached. In other words, if you're a celebrity and you use your dog's name as your password on every website you visit, eventually one of those sites will be compromised and the attacker will be able to use your weak login credentials to access more secure sites you visited with the same credentials.


To summarize:


  • Aperture is no longer supported by Apple and users will eventually need to choose a replacement.
  • A suitable replacement must offer comparable image editing AND image cataloging features.
  • While there are numerous alternatives on the market, none of them are very compelling for reasons including:
    • Inferior or nonexistent digital asset management features
    • Lack of iCloud Photo Library integration
    • Tedious and time consuming migration process, with extensive loss of previous organization and edits
    • Unconventional, unintuitive, non-Mac native user interfaces with steep learning curves
    • Poor performance and stability
    • High purchase/licensing costs

Dec 12, 2016 8:51 AM in response to freediverx01

Aperture is no longer supported by Apple and users will eventually need to choose a replacement.

Correct.


A suitable replacement must offer comparable image editing AND image cataloging features.

All the major alternatives - LR, CO, On1 etc - equal or exceed Aperture now in image editing and offer cataloguing features that are robust - even if different from Aperture's.


This


Inferior or nonexistent digital asset management features

Is a personal assessment. They offer DAM features, just not the same ones.


Lack of iCloud Photo Library integration

Another personal requirement - arbitrary, given that Aperture offered none either. I, for instance, have no such requirement.


Tedious and time consuming migration process, with extensive loss of previous organization and edits

This is inevitable with any DAM with non-destructive processing. But it is a once off.


Unconventional, unintuitive, non-Mac native user interfaces with steep learning curves

I can remember when that was a complaint about Aperture 😉. But again, arbitrary. I've bashed around with them all, never found any of them too difficult to get a handle on.


Poor performance and stability

I'll certainly agree about performance in the case of LR, though moving the Library to a dedicated disk did help. No issues with stability here for any of them.


High purchase/licensing costs

Which reflects the size of the market and many are comparable with Aperture.


I understand that you don't like the alternatives, but I'm afriad most of your demands for the replacement are personal and not really reflective of the Apps.

Dec 14, 2016 8:22 AM in response to Marc P

Which problems? Without reading 17 pages of discussion, it's hard to know what's expected. The one problem requiring elimination of Custom Fields has a work around—maybe that got fixed inadvertently; but what are the others? Might be a good time for a summary.


Other items discussed are the difficulties in transitioning. In my case just to move my large library to Sierra probably took ten tries. Many stalls and freezes, but eventually got through it. Now re-organizing 80k photo library. Should have been done a long time ago, but trying to get in shape for eventual changeover.

Dec 17, 2016 4:15 AM in response to Nikontraveler

Since this weeks release of OS Sierra 10.12.2 Photos will only share single images to Aperture and no longer shares multiple images. In addition Photos no longer deletes after import from an SD card in the slot on my late 2013 iMac 27", briefly did so from the camera via USB on the 12.1 update and doesn't now even recognise the camera any more (Fuji Finepix SI), and doesn't trigger Photos. Also sharing to Aperture with one image no longer triggers Aperture to open, this has to be done manually. The main issue though is multiple image sharing to Aperture from Photos.


Any advice?

Dec 17, 2016 8:43 AM in response to Nikontraveler

I have encountered two problems with Aperture that I have not seen reported here. It has occurred on two Mac Pro computers; A 2009 model (4,1) on El Capitan and a 2012 model (5,1) on Sierra.


The first problem is that smart albums occasionally do not update until I restart Aperture. For example, a new smart album may not show any photos at all until I restart the program. The album works fine after the restart.

The second problem is that the program often “freezes” while quitting (about 50% of the time). The freeze always occurs when the program starts to build previews for sharing after quitting. I have to use “force quit” to exit the program and I am concerned about library corruption while doing this.


I ran all three repair options to the Aperture library in an attempt to correct the issue, but without success. I have resolved the problems by downgrading the 2009 Mac Pro to Yosemite and aperture runs perfectly now.


David

Dec 17, 2016 8:53 AM in response to gail from maine

If I select one image the share comes up with Add to Aperture as it always has. If I select two or more and share the aperture option is missing. I've been into preferences, I've done an overnight shut down and restart. No change. It's been suggested that it can take 24 hours for a 3Gb disc to index properly. But we're on two full days of running time now.

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