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1680x1050, aspect ratio

At least Apple TV recognizes and can use a 1680x1050 monitor, which is nice. However, it will fill its 1920x1080 (ie. 16:9) contents to fill the entire 1680x1050 (ie. 16:10) screen, which means that everything is stretched vertically. In other words, the aspect ratio is all wrong.


Is there really no way to force Apple TV to retain a 16:9 aspect ratio even when using a 16:10 monitor? Obviously this means using letterboxing (ie. empty space at the top and bottom of the screen), but that's just fine. The wrong aspect ratio is a million times more bothersome. One would think this is something that they could code into the system in ten minutes.

Posted on Sep 11, 2016 11:33 PM

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Sep 12, 2016 3:20 AM in response to turingtest2

tt2, that option is for adjusting the zoom whilst keeping the same AR, I believe the OP would need to adjust the AR, (which most TV's support).


The Apple TV does in fact already support different AR's, the problem is the display being used needs to support them and to broadcast them, whether the OP's display may or may not support them, it doesn't appear to broadcast them.

Sep 12, 2016 3:50 AM in response to Winston Churchill

Yes. I suppose the monitor could be offering all of the modes it supports while not making it clear which is ideal. It might be worth visiting Settings > Audio & Video > Resolution and if it is on Auto trying some alternatives instead. If 1680x1050 is already selected there then it would seem ATV isn't handling that resolution properly.


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Sep 12, 2016 11:16 PM in response to turingtest2

To be clearer: Apple TV is reporting a resolution of 1680x1050 in the Audio&Video settings. In other words, it's detecting the display properly.


The problem is that it's scaling its 16:9 contents onto the 1680x1050 (ie. 16:10) display by stretching, making everything stretched vertically. Everything, all the menus, games, etc. are stretched vertically like this. Everything is assuming a 16:9 aspect ratio, and Apple TV is stretching it to 16:10 for the display.


What it should be doing (at the very least with some selectable setting) is to use letterboxing, ie. retain the aspect ratio of 16:9 (and thus leave some empty space at the top and bottom of the screen). I don't really understand why this isn't an option in the system settings.

Sep 13, 2016 12:53 AM in response to WarpRulez

What it should be doing (at the very least with some selectable setting) is to use letterboxing, ie. retain the aspect ratio of 16:9 (and thus leave some empty space at the top and bottom of the screen). I don't really understand why this isn't an option in the system settings.

Unfortunately that would be a job for your display. It's a function that most TV's have. The “problem” is you put it, is that you have chosen to use a computer monitor which wasn't designed to receive a TV input.

Sep 13, 2016 3:38 AM in response to Winston Churchill

Apple TV is seeing that the monitor is 1680x1050, and it knows that its own content is 16:9. What possible harm would there be in tvOS providing a system setting where you can choose to use aspect ratio retaining letterboxing?


As it is now, it's impossible to use Apple TV with a 16:10 monitor without getting a distorted image. Yet this would be something that's very easy for tvOS to fix.

Sep 13, 2016 4:01 AM in response to WarpRulez

WarpRulez wrote:


Apple TV is seeing that the monitor is 1680x1050, and it knows that its own content is 16:9. What possible harm would there be in tvOS providing a system setting where you can choose to use aspect ratio retaining letterboxing?

Because that isn't how it works, 2 devices controlling the same settings would be a nightmare.

As it is now, it's impossible to use Apple TV with a 16:10 monitor without getting a distorted image. Yet this would be something that's very easy for tvOS to fix.

Then use a TV or a monitor that has the settings you require, it's you not Apple that chose to use your unsupported device.

Sep 14, 2016 1:24 AM in response to WarpRulez

I'll make this my last post on this matter.


If you had used a device which Apple have told you is compatible... (from the Apple TV tech spec page)

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Then you would more than likely already have an option to change the AR. If the Apple TV did as you suggest and had an option to adjust AR, that wold be 2 devices controlling the same setting.


I'm not sure whether you really are missing the point or have just decided to be obstinate but this just doesn't happen in the real world, whether it be AR, brightness, volume or whatever you generally don't get 2 devices adjusting the same setting.

Sep 14, 2016 5:43 AM in response to Winston Churchill

No matter how many times you repeat it, the fact remains that there are zero devices in this setup controlling the aspect ratio.


You have also completely failed to mention even one single drawback of tvOS having optional support for choosing a different aspect ratio, when it detects that a 16:10 monitor has been plugged in.


The drawback of tvOS not offering such an option is rather obvious.

1680x1050, aspect ratio

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