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How to use Airport Extreme with ethernet leased line

Hello friends,


Just wondering if Airport Extreme is a real router, can I connect the ethernet drop of my leased line directly into it's WAN port, instead of putting the ISP provided router in between ? I have been through numerous posts and all seem to suggest connecting a cable/dsl modem to the WAN port of the Extreme. Didn't find any info where it shows the ethernet leased line connecting directly into the Giga WAN port, without any 2nd device in between.


If it can be done, then I also presume that the ISP provided public IP can be put in the WAN interface of AE. Can anybody elaborate more on this and detail out the configuration steps ? Since the AE has basic NAT firewall I think it can be done, but can anyone confirm please.


Thank you so much.

Posted on Sep 16, 2016 9:52 AM

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Sep 16, 2016 10:13 AM in response to Wizkid1968

Temporarily, if you connect your computer directly to the Ethernet line, can you get a good Internet connection that way?


If yes, then the AIrPort Extreme might work as a router for you, but you will also likely have to deal with a Double NAT error on the network. How well.....or, even if....that might work cannot be known until you try it out.


If the computer cannot connect, then what is required from your provider for the computer to connect and obtain an Internet connection?

Sep 16, 2016 9:12 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob,


Yes I do get absolutely fantastic speed connecting directly the ethernet drop to my computer's NIC. The Gateway setting points to my ISP's edge router, and the ethernet IP address has to be in the same LAN segment pool as provided by ISP. The LAN segment pool consists of 6 public IP address.


Coming back to your reply, just curious to know why would I face a double NAT error in the network ?


Thank you.

Sep 19, 2016 6:14 AM in response to Wizkid1968

Ah, thanks for the additional information.


Try using the DHCP Only setting on the AirPort router. Set up the router to connect using a Static IP address for the main Internet connection with the first IP address and then set up the DCHP range to use the remaining 5 static IP addresses.


I don't have this type of connection here to test, so I cannot say how well....or if.....this might work. But, in theory, this is the correct setting to use on the AirPort router.

Sep 19, 2016 6:15 AM in response to Wizkid1968

Most people are forced to use NAT because the block of public IP is inefficient and you don't necessarily want all your devices using public access IP anyway.


The typical method of setup is using static IP on Internet tab (the bottom address). The top address is reserved as broadcast. That leaves only 4 IP you can use.. which you setup with the DHCP only setting on the network tab. Exactly as Bob has outlined. A more enterprise level router could then NAT one of those IP's but in your case you would use a second router behind the first for your local connections.. and the public addresses are used for servers etc that require public access. If you haven't done this kind of setup before.. I recommend you get a network guru in to help you.

Sep 17, 2016 9:21 PM in response to LaPastenague

Hi LaPastenague,


Since Airport Extreme is a router, can I not setup a static IP on the WAN port and an usual Class C IP range for my internal DHCP pool ? It would be really helpful then if I can use a static route to push all traffic from DHCP pool to Static IP of the WAN port. Is there any option in Airport Extreme configuration wherein I can write a static route, something like 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Next Hop[WAN Port static IP], and in the internet tab where I am mentioning the static IP of the WAN port I mention also the ISP gateway static IP ? This I guess will not deplete all ISP assigned public IP(actually I will be using only 1 and using the NAT feature for the rest in LAN).


Thank you.

Sep 17, 2016 10:53 PM in response to Wizkid1968

You absolutely cannot access the route table nor can you edit it or do anything else.. this is apple we are talking about.


can I not setup a static IP on the WAN port and an usual Class C IP range for my internal DHCP pool ?

Yes, but then why have a block of public IP addresses.


The Internet tab of the Airport can be set with static IP and setup DHCP and NAT then on the Network tab.. that is fine.

Sep 18, 2016 1:26 AM in response to LaPastenague

So, to roundup the discussion if I have understood properly, static IP can be setup for the WAN port in the Internet tab of the Airport and DHCP(Clsss C) and NAT on the Network tab. The route table is taken care of by Airport itself. Please let me know if my understanding is correct.


The rest static IPs can be used by other servers in the network.


Thank you.

Sep 18, 2016 8:52 AM in response to Wizkid1968

You will need to use a router mode of DHCP and NAT on the AirPort router for this type of setup, as I originally suggested with a note that this may create a Double NAT error depending on how your provider has set things up.


Go ahead and use the DHCP and NAT setup, and if you see a Double NAT message, you can test to see how the network behaves with the Double NAT. If you don't see a Double NAT and the network allows you to do what you want, then all is well.

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