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iOS 10 HomeKit Lock Automation

Why do automation actions for HomeKit locks in iOS 10 require user action To run? for example a trigger to arrive at a location pushes a notification asking the user if you want to run the scene or not To unlock the lock. Kind of defeats the purpose of the automation it seems.

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Posted on Sep 16, 2016 4:07 PM

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Posted on Jan 12, 2017 6:43 AM

I would also like to add if you are wearing an Apple Watch you are already authenticated with your iPhone so there is ZERO reason the security based automation cannot run without user intervention within this context.

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Jun 4, 2017 3:54 AM in response to Cartaa

So IOS 11 will be announced in a few days. I am REALLY hoping this is fixed. It's absolutely deplorable Apple. You have disabled for some people the entire reason they bought a lock for their doors. I dont see how you have not fixed this immediately. Absolutely disgusting. I don't know why you dont get a check box the first time you set up the automation with a lock to ok the fact that you take 100% responsibility for security and Apple takes no responsibility.

I just spent $400AUS at an Apple Store for Schlage Sense, drilled my door, chiseled out recess etc etc only to find I cannot do what is advertised. Well I guess they only say its compatible with Apple HomeKit, I guess they dont specifically say it is NOT without restrictions. Major restrictions.......

Jun 25, 2017 9:05 PM in response to Cartaa

I think Apple is confusing 'Remote Control' with 'Home Automation'. The August and Schlage locks under homekit are just remote control, you can lock and unlock from your phone. They are not automated, you can't unlock your door automatically, like when you walk up to the door.


It doesn't save labour, its just a virtual key instead of a physical one, so the advertising is misleading. If people knew this they might not buy one so I see why its not printed on the box!

Jul 31, 2017 10:11 PM in response to happyfunballs

Actually, you can. At least the Homekit could, but it wouldn't do anything.



It is the worst way to solve the problem with a home security. Because it is more dangerous than just allow automation to its job.



Here is an example: Tonight I created an automation that locks the door when I left my place. I jumped into the car and left, and drove 2 blocks away from home, then I realized that I have no notification about locking the door. So I took my phone to check it quickly and realized that Homekit asking me to run the automation (which is stupid itself). I pressed "Run" and then it worked.



First of all, it is dangerous, because I had to interact with my iPhone in the car and second: I was lucky to notice that my door didn't close, otherwise my house would be open for everyone.



Bravo, Apple.

Nov 15, 2017 8:34 PM in response to jodywoodcock

Your testing totally makes sense but it ALSO prompts me when my automation is to LOCK the doors. The problem is, by the time it figures out that I'm outside the fence, I'm driving to work. So if I want the automation to run, I need to use my phone while I'm driving. That totally defeats the greatness of a geofence triggered automation. And yes, I will submit a suggestion.

Dec 11, 2017 2:31 PM in response to Cartaa

I don't need evil empires like Apple making decisions for me. Give me the ability to do things with technology, warn if you must but don't treat me like a child that can't take care of myself. Next thing you know the Apple car will make you log onto your phone to take a right turn. How about implementing voice authentication to confirm.

Sep 19, 2016 11:13 AM in response to Cartaa

I think the reason is that a Lock is a security device and it now wants verification that you are the user.

I noticed the same thing with my lock not unlocking until I selected ok in notification center and then had to log into the iPhone to run the scene.

To test that theory I set up another trigger to run a scene when leaving an area. Set that trigger to run a scene that turned on a light. That worked without any user interaction.

Only the trigger to run a scene using a security device (i.e.:a door lock) would it not run until I logged in.


Its the same as when you wake your iPhone but do not login and go then swipe up to get to the control center then swipe over to homekit and select accessories or scenes. Then you can run non security scenes and trigger non security accessories without logging in, but if you try to unlock/lock the lock it will ask you to log in first before executing.


It makes sense, if someone gets your phone they could unlock your door if they had not implemented this feature. Under iOS9 it was different. The trigger would run the scene automatically without user interaction.


Thats what I have figured out from my testing.

Sep 23, 2016 2:17 PM in response to Cartaa

Thank G... I found this thread: I thought I was the only one in the world with this issue


Homekit is all about automation: why would Apple change the rules and added a manual intervention for locks? I get that someone could steel our phone and run away to a house and unlock it, but that's pushing security a bit too far: what's are the odd of this happening...


I bought a Homekit lock just so I wouldn't have to pull out my phone or keys when coming or leaving my home.... now I arrive home, forgot about the notification and choke at a closed door...


I'll have to write a suggestion to Apple...


Not happy.😠

Sep 30, 2016 1:44 PM in response to Cartaa

I think the answer about security is ridiculous. For security to be an issue then not only would someone have to steal your phone but know your address and know your lock code. Come on Apple get this sorted out so it works properly as it used to in IOS 9...which I am going back to by the way...very poor show Apple in ruining a great feature of being able to have the door unlock as you approach the house with your hands full.

Oct 2, 2016 1:35 PM in response to jodywoodcock

And how is this different than someone finding my keys. If someone finds my iPhone they should not be able to find out what my address is because my phone is locked. Finding my phone should be the same as finding a set of keys. I have been happily having my front door auto-unlock for 6 months and am not worried about the security breach. If Apple wants to make this a security issue they should give me the option.

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